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If you live in Base, read and know your contract, and feel like working a lot, you can make some real cash just about anywhere.

I feel like working about half the time. As Albie alluded to, 3 kids can impact that feeling. 1 through college, 2 to go. Really like the freedom to pick up the pace or pull the throttle back at my choosing.
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LoL you can call bs all you want. There's a reason some of our triple digit seniority guys still sit in the right seat. If they go to the left seat, they work more lose qol and scheduling cart Blanche and could possibly make less money.

Sorry beaner. Your counting skills aren't there on this one.

Quote: I was in the training center for several months about 1 1/2 years ago. In the period of just three months 14 or 15 JB went through and some were captains! Nothing against JB, but I have to call BS on this $200k plus FO stuff. Either that or these guys jumping ship are not realizing what they're getting into.
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Time to start bringing up the rear (regional FO, trying to get hired at the 'last job'). This is a very informative thread for someone job hunting and I appreciate the data.

1) Airline employer
2) Equipment
3) Relative Seniority for base biding (where you averaged your bid throughout the year)
4) How many days you worked
5) How many overnights you had
6) How many hours you blocked
7) Expected gross income

1. Skywest 2nd/3rd year.
2. Started the year on the turboprop $37/hour finished flying mostly the CRJ7 at $42/hour. Training event mid-year.
3. Lots of movement this year, finish the year around 35%. Call it 45% average.
4&5: Current average 14-15 flying days/month, mostly 2 & 3 day trips so away 8-10 nights a month. The yearly total would be more given all 4-day trips at the start of the year and then the training event.
6. 640 block hours, 1040 credit
7. $53K W2 gross. Does not include small 401k match. Very rarely do I pick anything up, and even then I keep the work days even (when I can drop or get displaced)

I feel like this is probably as good as it gets at the regional level. Upgrade will mean life at the bottom of the heap for a very long time and perhaps not that significant of a pay increase as a rsv CA commuting.
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Quote: Time to start bringing up the rear (regional FO, trying to get hired at the 'last job'.
I've been searching for that for my last 5 or 6 jobs. Darned furloughs and start overs.

Before you know it you'll be in your 40s on airline number 5+ sitting reserve and wondering where it all went wrong. [emoji23]
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Quote: CX
744 F/O
We don't bid, nor does seniority mean anything except for command..and sometimes vacation bidding.
Work on average between 15 and 18 days per month
overnights associated with days worked. I spend a lot of time in Anchorage and HK.
Not much flying, due to the horribly inefficient rostering. 3-400 hours probably
With my 15.5% (our retirement) added to my paycheck ~$170k
9 years with the company.
Sounds pretty good! You guys hiring???
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Netjets 17 years
Citation X
Top 10%
KTYS based no commuting
162 days worked
420 hrs flown
Free healthcare (18,700.00 package last year)
8200.00 401k match
204,000.00
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1) Southwest
2) You guessed it
3) CA, Living in base, 23 years, top 10%
4) 151 Days worked
5) 70ish overnights
6) 650 hrs
7) $270k + PS 9.5% + $24k 401k match

I pick up a lot of 1-2 day trips and probably average 125 trips for pay/MO
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1) Airline employer
2) Equipment
3) Relative Seniority for base biding (where you averaged your bid throughout the year)
4) How many days you worked
5) How many overnights you had
6) How many hours you blocked
7) Expected gross income

1) JetBlue
2) A320 FO, 2nd/3rd yr pay (mostly 2nd yr)
3) 40-50% in base
4) 168 days
5) Fly a mix of turns and multi-day trips but I commute so I consider them all overnights
6) 672 hrs block
7) $123K for 2015
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Quote: LoL you can call bs all you want. There's a reason some of our triple digit seniority guys still sit in the right seat. If they go to the left seat, they work more lose qol and scheduling cart Blanche and could possibly make less money.

Sorry beaner. Your counting skills aren't there on this one.
LMAO. The pilots I met must have been lying about where they were coming from..... yeah riiiiight. Nothing wrong with the numbers, still wondering though why they came over. Maybe reality is setting in now and they're regretting the move. Either that or the BS level around here is mighty high. I don't think there will be a future mass exodus problem for JetBlue though. Envoy flows are 50% now and when you add in PSA, Piedmont, and returnees there won't be a lot of street hires anytime soon.
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Quote: These kinds of posts crack me up. Just because you can't see how it's possible, doesn't mean it can't be done.

It's not that they aren't realizing what they're getting into, it's that it would take years (over a decade), to get senior enough to be able to bid the trips that can allow them the flexibility to make the money as a senior FO.

Call BS all you want, but there are (very) senior FOs who make in the $200K+ range....and do it without batting an eye. (Ask me how I know)
ummmm yeah ok. So lets say you're right and you can make that kind of money. You can't do it over here. So I'd say again, why leave, and why so many??? Too much BS time to get back to reality. This site is good for the laughs though.
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