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ptuoverheat 12-16-2015 04:18 PM

Spirit, the multi million dollar mistake!
 
I'd like to know why guys/gals are coming here? Is it because you get to fly a shiny new Airbus? Or, is it just an escape from your regional until someone better calls? Honest question!

Here are the facts-
One of the lowest paid pilots flying the most amount of pax allowed in a bus.

Management wants to take work rules and pay less than standard wages. They don't value us! A good TA is years away!!

Our QOL is no better than JB, Alaska or the Legacies. Don't drink the kool aid, it's not awesome like everyone thinks. Having to game the system to make a decent wage gets old!

Upgrades will stop! We are halfway through our orders.

Below average retirement! We give up hundreds of thousands of dollars with no DC!

Short disability and long term stink!

All this for the most profitable airline in the US! Welcome aboard!

beech_nut 12-16-2015 04:22 PM

Spirit
 
Short disability stinks because there is no short disability. For the first 90 days you are out you are completely on your own. Better have some sick time or vacation time saved up or its time to eat in to your savings.

WaveRider 12-16-2015 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by ptuoverheat (Post 2029051)
I'd like to know why guys/gals are coming here?

Why did you come here?

Rainbows 12-16-2015 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by ptuoverheat (Post 2029051)
I'd like to know why guys/gals are coming here? Is it because you get to fly a shiny new Airbus? Or, is it just an escape from your regional until someone better calls? Honest question!

Here are the facts-
One of the lowest paid pilots flying the most amount of pax allowed in a bus.

Management wants to take work rules and pay less than standard wages. They don't value us! A good TA is years away!!

Our QOL is no better than JB, Alaska or the Legacies. Don't drink the kool aid, it's not awesome like everyone thinks. Having to game the system to make a decent wage gets old!

Upgrades will stop! We are halfway through our orders.

Below average retirement! We give up hundreds of thousands of dollars with no DC!

Short disability and long term stink!

All this for the most profitable airline in the US! Welcome aboard!

Let us know what the Chief Pilot says when you hand in your resignation tomorrow morning.

ptuoverheat 12-16-2015 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by WaveRider (Post 2029063)
Why did you come here?

Same reasons you probably did. Hopes of being a part of and building something awesome! Its clear this management team doesn't want that!

rvr1800 12-16-2015 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rainbows (Post 2029072)
Let us know what the Chief Pilot says when you hand in your resignation tomorrow morning.

That's what your counter point is? If you don't like it then quit? You know what industry you work in right?

abbynormallaw 12-16-2015 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rainbows (Post 2029072)
Let us know what the Chief Pilot says when you hand in your resignation tomorrow morning.

Yeah, you tell em! OP's question seems legit!

Judge Smails 12-16-2015 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ptuoverheat (Post 2029087)
Same reasons you probably did. Hopes of being a part of and building something awesome! Its clear this management team doesn't want that!

Serious question...is this your first airline gig? You do realize it's management's job to low ball us, right? We're five months past our amendable date, save the sky is falling threads for a couple years from now.

ptuoverheat 12-16-2015 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2029097)
Serious question...is this your first airline gig? You do realize it's management's job to low ball us, right? We're five months past our amendable date, save the sky is falling threads for a couple years from now.

Wow, you're in for a rude awakening then. Great name though.. Go have a Fresca!

Rainbows 12-16-2015 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2029097)
Serious question...is this your first airline gig? You do realize it's management's job to low ball us, right? We're five months past our amendable date, save the sky is falling threads for a couple years from now.

Bingo bango exactamundo! I wonder if this guy with 2 posts knows that this contract we are living under, the same one that has been amendable for ALL of five months is the same one that was passed when this company was private, had about 300-400 pilots and was signed when most of the other carriers were in bankruptcy. Put on your big boy pants and quit whining about how awful and horrible the job conditions you're working under are, if it's so glaringly bad, then quit. Ain't no one forcing you to work in this gawd awful place, acting like you shoveling coal 12-15 hours straight, working on a chain gang, gimme a break, you're sounding like a self-entitled mama's boy.


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