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CaptCoolHand 03-01-2016 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by candlerman (Post 2079238)
I think a lot of guys think about this.. How long does it take to recoup $200k a year starting over at a legacy? Not just make $200k at a legacy, but make up the difference in those first couple of years.


I think QOL is the biggest driver.


But to your point, I think that having to work 18-20 days for your 2 large is different from working 12-15 days for 2 large.

Everyone's situation is gonna be different here. Married, kids, commute, upside down mortgage, money to burn, ect...

We still have about 80ish AA recalls at jb and few are expected to go back. But I have two buddies at SWA that are going back. It's all perspective.

Once I could hold 320ca I quit updating resumes. hoping bluejet wins for 28 more years.

cheers

VegassBus 03-01-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2079249)
I think QOL is the biggest driver.


But to your point, I think that having to work 18-20 days for your 2 large is different from working 12-15 days for 2 large.

Everyone's situation is gonna be different here. Married, kids, commute, upside down mortgage, money to burn, ect...

We still have about 80ish AA recalls at jb and few are expected to go back. But I have two buddies at SWA that are going back. It's all perspective.

Once I could hold 320ca I quit updating resumes. hoping bluejet wins for 28 more years.

cheers

I would feel the same way at $180/hr but at Spiirt as a 5th year CA I make $136. It's absolutely disgraceful. Who knows how long our negotiations will last. We have the highest "slope" in the industry

CaptCoolHand 03-01-2016 05:38 AM

I hear ya Brotha. gotta do whats right for you. If you're young enough, I'd say go whole hog and try to get up with one of the big 3. sooner the better if youre gonna go obviously. Get the apps out and get some interviews, make the call when you have the opportunity.

goodluck

ropestart 03-01-2016 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by VegassBus (Post 2079251)
I would feel the same way at $180/hr but at Spiirt as a 5th year CA I make $136. It's absolutely disgraceful. Who knows how long our negotiations will last. We have the highest "slope" in the industry

I'm in the same boat brother. Waiting around for a great contract seems risky. I've updated my app's with the big 3 and will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Packrat 03-01-2016 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by VegassBus (Post 2079251)
I would feel the same way at $180/hr but at Spiirt as a 5th year CA I make $136. It's absolutely disgraceful. Who knows how long our negotiations will last. We have the highest "slope" in the industry

Why are you accepting that pay rate? Move on. No time better than NOW!

ropestart 03-01-2016 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2079263)
Why are you accepting that pay rate? Move on. No time better than NOW!

Exactly!!! I don't know why guys are fixated on that rate. The industry average for five year captain is $196 per.

VegassBus 03-01-2016 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2079263)
Why are you accepting that pay rate? Move on. No time better than NOW!

I'm not accepting it, I can't do anything but apply and wait. I wasn't necessarily asking "if" I should move on, I was asking how many Junior CAs at non legacy airlines have/intend to.

Also $180-196 is not nearly as dramatic as $180-135. That was my only point in using JB rates

eagleatr 03-01-2016 06:24 AM

Almost everyone I know at Allegiant, both captain and FO, are looking to move on.

otter1 03-01-2016 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by VegassBus (Post 2079251)
I would feel the same way at $180/hr but at Spiirt as a 5th year CA I make $136. It's absolutely disgraceful. Who knows how long our negotiations will last. We have the highest "slope" in the industry

I agree Vegas,

I don't think our N/C is that interested in fixing it, either.

rightside02 03-01-2016 06:27 AM

Been at JetBlue for about 3 years , haven't seen any CA leave for the big three except for a small amount that had recall rights to Delta and a few still have recall rights to AA.Sure FO's have left but Ca's maybe one or two.


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