'Real' Minimum Qualifications
03-20-2016, 09:25 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
So the hours for a regional pilot but then how does the leadership aspect work? Is it a get a call before others with the same amount of time because of the military box?
03-21-2016, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Leadership boxes can be checked regardless of platform. Your best bet is to plan on a purely civilian timeline, but if I had to guess it could be quicker depending on the company.
Looks like JetBlue may be a good stepping stone on the way as they do take full rotor time as well
03-21-2016, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
TURBINE PIC. It's still all about checking the right boxes though. Which ever path allows you to check as many as fast as possible is your best bet. I hate that this career has been reduced to this but it has.
Certainly this has been true for a long time. But is that changing?
There are a lot of newly hired mainline FOs who don't have any TPIC. I know a few myself.
With the looming retirement wave, it increasingly appears as though 121 time...and total time...are the big items. Certainly TPIC doesn't hurt. But in the future I don't think the majors are going to pass on a guy who has 4-5K hrs with 2-3K 121 time, has no busts (legal or training-wise), a college degree, speaks and presents him/herself well, has internal recs, is in their 30s or early 40s (read: stable, married, kids, no divorces), and as good in an interview as he/she is on paper.
They have 20,000K more jobs to fill in the next 8-10 years.
03-21-2016, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Certainly this has been true for a long time. But is that changing?
There are a lot of newly hired mainline FOs who don't have any TPIC. I know a few myself.
With the looming retirement wave, it increasingly appears as though 121 time...and total time...are the big items. Certainly TPIC doesn't hurt. But in the future I don't think the majors are going to pass on a guy who has 4-5K hrs with 2-3K 121 time, has no busts (legal or training-wise), a college degree, speaks and presents him/herself well, has internal recs, is in their 30s or early 40s (read: stable, married, kids, no divorces), and as good in an interview as he/she is on paper.
They have 20,000K more jobs to fill in the next 8-10 years.
There are a lot of newly hired mainline FOs who don't have any TPIC. I know a few myself.
With the looming retirement wave, it increasingly appears as though 121 time...and total time...are the big items. Certainly TPIC doesn't hurt. But in the future I don't think the majors are going to pass on a guy who has 4-5K hrs with 2-3K 121 time, has no busts (legal or training-wise), a college degree, speaks and presents him/herself well, has internal recs, is in their 30s or early 40s (read: stable, married, kids, no divorces), and as good in an interview as he/she is on paper.
They have 20,000K more jobs to fill in the next 8-10 years.
03-21-2016, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Certainly this has been true for a long time. But is that changing?
There are a lot of newly hired mainline FOs who don't have any TPIC. I know a few myself.
With the looming retirement wave, it increasingly appears as though 121 time...and total time...are the big items. Certainly TPIC doesn't hurt. But in the future I don't think the majors are going to pass on a guy who has 4-5K hrs with 2-3K 121 time, has no busts (legal or training-wise), a college degree, speaks and presents him/herself well, has internal recs, is in their 30s or early 40s (read: stable, married, kids, no divorces), and as good in an interview as he/she is on paper.
They have 20,000K more jobs to fill in the next 8-10 years.
There are a lot of newly hired mainline FOs who don't have any TPIC. I know a few myself.
With the looming retirement wave, it increasingly appears as though 121 time...and total time...are the big items. Certainly TPIC doesn't hurt. But in the future I don't think the majors are going to pass on a guy who has 4-5K hrs with 2-3K 121 time, has no busts (legal or training-wise), a college degree, speaks and presents him/herself well, has internal recs, is in their 30s or early 40s (read: stable, married, kids, no divorces), and as good in an interview as he/she is on paper.
They have 20,000K more jobs to fill in the next 8-10 years.
No two people are the same but pilots are a dime a dozen from an HR standpoint. What makes someone stand out from the crowd?
These are all things to consider.
03-21-2016, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
What type of applicants are they hiring who only have 121 time and no TPIC time? What makes their application stand out and who is hiring them?
No two people are the same but pilots are a dime a dozen from an HR standpoint. What makes someone stand out from the crowd?
These are all things to consider.
No two people are the same but pilots are a dime a dozen from an HR standpoint. What makes someone stand out from the crowd?
These are all things to consider.
1 - The right kind of resume fluffing.
2 - Internal help.
2a - sometimes a pinch of demographics to mix things up.
Same as every other industry.
03-22-2016, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
What type of applicants are they hiring who only have 121 time and no TPIC time? What makes their application stand out and who is hiring them?
No two people are the same but pilots are a dime a dozen from an HR standpoint. What makes someone stand out from the crowd?
These are all things to consider.
No two people are the same but pilots are a dime a dozen from an HR standpoint. What makes someone stand out from the crowd?
These are all things to consider.
Here ya go---in order of preference.
1. Afro-american female
2. Afro American male
3. American Indian female
4. American Indian male
5. Female
6. Relative with a pulse
7. Military Female
8. Military Male
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50. White boy
Now if you can get a combo of any of the above--you are gold.
03-22-2016, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Smith
1 - The right kind of resume fluffing.
2 - Internal help.
2a - sometimes a pinch of demographics to mix things up.
Same as every other industry.
2 - Internal help.
2a - sometimes a pinch of demographics to mix things up.
Same as every other industry.
Spend the money for interview consultants and make yourself more marketable.
03-25-2016, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Javichu
where does a spaniard stand in that ranking haha. they consider me hispanic in the applications actually
I could fly a month with ya!
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