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10-16-2016, 06:56 PM
#11
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From what I can see, Ashley is a pawn in the Emirates effort to gain "western" market share and trust.
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
10-16-2016, 07:19 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by pipe
From what I can see, Ashley is a pawn in the Emirates effort to gain "western" market share and trust.
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
Ashley on Ellen's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr22evhTudk
Pretty well done, that's how you win customers.
10-16-2016, 07:29 PM
#13
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You get a free ticket to Dubai...and you get one...and you and you!!! Now jump and scream like monkeys!!! Yeahhhhh!!!!!
Please remember to spend a tons of money in Dubai, the same Arabs that rigged this stupid game so you would get free tickets also own everything else in Dubai. Win win! For us!!! Hahahahahaha!
Please remember to spend a tons of money in Dubai, the same Arabs that rigged this stupid game so you would get free tickets also own everything else in Dubai. Win win! For us!!! Hahahahahaha!
10-16-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
You would rather see legacies target people who left the USA to go fly big airplanes in the Middle East for a foreign carrier (one that undercuts the US and our WB intl flying) while there are over 12k regional pilots, many of whom who have been flying your passengers at C scale rates, trying like hell to get on at a legacy? Ok.
Note: Not a defense of Emirates or the UAE
.....................but this kind of thinking has got to stop!!!
Plenty of pilots left the USA in 2002/2003 and in the years following after they were furloughed from their ALPA airline jobs or their ALPA airlines went out of business. They had nowhere else to go what with the stagnation created by the change to age 65 retirement that followed.
When I joined Emirates they had less than 50 airplanes and did not serve North America at all. They were one of the few airlines hiring in the dark days post 9-11 So you would punish me, and those like me, for making a good choice at the time? One that had zero, and I mean literally zero, effect on any U.S. ALPA pilot other than giving them jobs after their own ALPA carriers furloughed them or went out of business.
It is just unreal how supposedly educated grown men can have so much hate in their hearts and be so ignorant as to say what you have said. In your distorted vision of reality you'd rather I have gone from legacy F.O. to regional F.O. at $25,000/year than to foreign airline F.O. at $75,000/year, with an 18 month upgrade timeline. That is the kind of decision making you would like to see in the pilots that the current major airlines hire? Really?
Typhoonpilot
10-16-2016, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
Note: Not a defense of Emirates or the UAE
.....................but this kind of thinking has got to stop!!!
Plenty of pilots left the USA in 2002/2003 and in the years following after they were furloughed from their ALPA airline jobs or their ALPA airlines went out of business. They had nowhere else to go what with the stagnation created by the change to age 65 retirement that followed.
When I joined Emirates they had less than 50 airplanes and did not serve North America at all. They were one of the few airlines hiring in the dark days post 9-11 So you would punish me, and those like me, for making a good choice at the time? One that had zero, and I mean literally zero, effect on any U.S. ALPA pilot other than giving them jobs after their own ALPA carriers furloughed them or went out of business.
It is just unreal how supposedly educated grown men can have so much hate in their hearts and be so ignorant as to say what you have said. In your distorted vision of reality you'd rather I have gone from legacy F.O. to regional F.O. at $25,000/year than to foreign airline F.O. at $75,000/year, with an 18 month upgrade timeline. That is the kind of decision making you would like to see in the pilots that the current major airlines hire? Really?
Typhoonpilot
.....................but this kind of thinking has got to stop!!!
Plenty of pilots left the USA in 2002/2003 and in the years following after they were furloughed from their ALPA airline jobs or their ALPA airlines went out of business. They had nowhere else to go what with the stagnation created by the change to age 65 retirement that followed.
When I joined Emirates they had less than 50 airplanes and did not serve North America at all. They were one of the few airlines hiring in the dark days post 9-11 So you would punish me, and those like me, for making a good choice at the time? One that had zero, and I mean literally zero, effect on any U.S. ALPA pilot other than giving them jobs after their own ALPA carriers furloughed them or went out of business.
It is just unreal how supposedly educated grown men can have so much hate in their hearts and be so ignorant as to say what you have said. In your distorted vision of reality you'd rather I have gone from legacy F.O. to regional F.O. at $25,000/year than to foreign airline F.O. at $75,000/year, with an 18 month upgrade timeline. That is the kind of decision making you would like to see in the pilots that the current major airlines hire? Really?
Typhoonpilot
10-16-2016, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
I don't think you all should get preferential hiring at a legacy as the post I responded to had stated. I don't think there should be any stigma against you all...I never said that. I am sorry you feel that way. I'm not second guessing your career move, you gotta do what's best for you and your family, but there were contracting jobs for US companies overseas, JetBlue, and some other random hiring, so $25k a year wasn't your only option. Hopefully all of us end up where we want, and we all took different paths to get there. I considered some overseas stuff. I don't think it's bad. But certainly not worthy of targeted/preferential hiring.
That's how capitalism works.
10-17-2016, 07:19 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
You would rather see legacies target people who left the USA to go fly big airplanes in the Middle East for a foreign carrier (one that undercuts the US and our WB intl flying) while there are over 12k regional pilots, many of whom who have been flying your passengers at C scale rates, trying like hell to get on at a legacy? Ok.
The legacies will continue to hire a good combination of military, regional, LCC's, corporate and yes some from the ME-3.
By the way I believe most of those 12,000 Regional pilots will be at the legacies as over the next ten years as all 50 seaters are parked. I predict when the pilot shortage really hits the legacies in about five years most 70/76 seaters are brought to mainline and most regionals go away. That's the way it should have always been no regionals, you get hired to a legacy and start out in a 70/76 seater as the junior aircraft.
10-17-2016, 08:22 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Gillegan
Fair point. I think the argument for preferential hiring is that Emirates is on the ropes and it would be an good way to deliver an effective body blow to an airline that has become a real competitive threat to U.S. airlines and that is struggling with retention and recruitment (their own fault).
That's how capitalism works.
That's how capitalism works.
capitalism that includes having your company backed with government money though.
10-17-2016, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
There is no part of
capitalism that includes having your company backed with government money though.
capitalism that includes having your company backed with government money though.
Here's a list...
http://www.icao.int/sustainability/D...edAirlines.pdf
10-17-2016, 03:50 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by pipe
From what I can see, Ashley is a pawn in the Emirates effort to gain "western" market share and trust.
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
Clearly her ego trumps any consideration for the realities of women's lives in the Middle East. She talks about "girlpower" and "women in uniform"--what b.s.
We'll see how they like her when she's 63.
Pipe
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