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12-08-2016 | 04:15 PM
#191
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What's unfortunate is the day this became political. That was the day that intelligent folks stopped processing this with logic and starting applying their emotional response that they use for all things not in line with their political affiliation. I'm not sure how anyone can say with a straight face that adding our industrial output from the last century to the atmosphere won't have had at least SOME effect. Will it warm the planet? It's a theory. But one that if ignored and proven right could be devastating. Even a 1% chance that it is humans deserves our utmost efforts to not screw it up for all the folks down the line.
Put it this way: if youre wrong the world gets screwed up. If 97.4% of scientists are wrong you pay more taxes or something
Risk vs reward
Put it this way: if youre wrong the world gets screwed up. If 97.4% of scientists are wrong you pay more taxes or something
Risk vs reward
12-08-2016 | 04:57 PM
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No they are opinions and not supported by the scientific evidence. Sorry.
Apparently you don't. A 70% chance of something happening means that 3 out of every 10 times it won't. Kind of like the chances of Clinton winning the election.
Apparently you don't. A 70% chance of something happening means that 3 out of every 10 times it won't. Kind of like the chances of Clinton winning the election.
12-08-2016 | 06:01 PM
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Who cares? There has to be some benefit to a warmer world. Perhaps a longer growing season!? It would be great if the northwest passage was a reality because the ice melted. Hey more vegetation because of more Co2. I could go on and on. Personally I don't think solar power is going to keep the jets flying and then how would we all earn a living. Really if everyone was saying global cooling the alarmist would freak out as well.
12-08-2016 | 06:18 PM
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12-08-2016 | 06:33 PM
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I bet you could with such nonsense. You might have noticed that we are dependent on a complex ecosystem that is comprised of organisms that are continually adapting, but at a VERY SLOW rate. This isn't simply a matter of flooding, storms and weather patterns. If the rate of change exceeds organisms ability to adapt (see coral reef bleaching) then very bad things happen like famine, war, mass human migrations, etc. On the other hand energy dependence and decentralization leads to all kinds of positive outcomes. Aviation is a very small part of the problem and solar is a better for all sorts of other applications. Biofuels is better for aviation. https://www.thestreet.com/story/1391...emissions.html
12-08-2016 | 06:49 PM
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"Biofuels" are an oxymoron. The true "Biofuel" is.......petroleum.
65 million years ago a bunch of dinosaurs and plants died. Through time, solar radiation, etc, that biomass was reduced to....petroleum. All we have to do is find it and pump it out of the ground and refine it a bit.
Or, we can burn fuel by planting, irrigating, fertilizing, and harvesting crops. Then we can burn more fuel trucking it to a factory where we burn more fuel to reduce it into "biofuel".
The "organic" solution, is petroleum. Biofuel is a cruel joke, sold to the masses by politicians with a financial agenda. The hippies jump all over it because it sounds cool.
65 million years ago a bunch of dinosaurs and plants died. Through time, solar radiation, etc, that biomass was reduced to....petroleum. All we have to do is find it and pump it out of the ground and refine it a bit.
Or, we can burn fuel by planting, irrigating, fertilizing, and harvesting crops. Then we can burn more fuel trucking it to a factory where we burn more fuel to reduce it into "biofuel".
The "organic" solution, is petroleum. Biofuel is a cruel joke, sold to the masses by politicians with a financial agenda. The hippies jump all over it because it sounds cool.
12-08-2016 | 07:46 PM
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You have to use an all the above approach to energy and global climate change. These are systemic problems that demands systemic solutions. Unfortunately the biggest consumer of energy and producer of green house emissions will be run by a bunch of flat earth deniers for the next four years.
12-09-2016 | 05:48 AM
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Who cares? There has to be some benefit to a warmer world. Perhaps a longer growing season!? It would be great if the northwest passage was a reality because the ice melted. Hey more vegetation because of more Co2. I could go on and on. Personally I don't think solar power is going to keep the jets flying and then how would we all earn a living. Really if everyone was saying global cooling the alarmist would freak out as well.
40% of the world's population live within 60km of a coastline. A coastline that will be shifting dramatically in the next 500 years. I expect that will cause enough disruption to cause a global conflict, mass refugees, and other unsavory events.
50% of the world's oxygen is generated by phytoplankton, a small algae organism quite susceptible to ocean temperature changes. Screwing with the oxygen supply of the planet isn't smart.
Needless to say, the real reason why you don't care about any of this is that you're going to be dead when it happens. And your empathy for future people is near zero.
12-09-2016 | 06:06 AM
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FlytoLive, Flyprdu and anyone else that believes in the scientific consensus: This is an exercise in futility. You're not going to change their minds. This is an example of a post-fact dystopia that actually began 20 years ago aided by a shop-for-your-fact-bubble internet and "cover the controversy" media.
Don't waste the bandwidth.
Don't waste the bandwidth.
12-09-2016 | 07:24 AM
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Prior to so called global warming we never saw a global conflict (WW I, WWII) mass refugees or unsavory events. Very convenient for the alarmists to blame everything negative on this climate change nonsense.
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