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Old 12-07-2016 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Let's park all the aircraft, green energy fast trains are the solution to AGW.
I'm not saying we should eliminate coal or every carbon-based energy consumer or producer. That's illogical right now. I think we should do what we can to reduce, through creating clean and efficient burning technologies and substitute where applicable. We need to acknowledge that we are having a negative impact on our environment and ecosystem (we as in humans, not Americans) and make a legitimate effort to significantly cut dirty carbon emissions.
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Old 12-07-2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not saying we should eliminate coal or every carbon-based energy consumer or producer. That's illogical right now. I think we should do what we can to reduce, through creating clean and efficient burning technologies and substitute where applicable. We need to acknowledge that we are having a negative impact on our environment and ecosystem (we as in humans, not Americans) and make a legitimate effort to significantly cut dirty carbon emissions.
It doesn't work that way, the issue is that with the politics of AGW, you don't get to dictate terms, international treaties do. Global interests will pick winners, and losers.
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Old 12-07-2016 | 08:06 PM
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Not believing in global warming is just plain ridiculous. It's obvious you are following your political party's lead.

Fact: 97.4% of scientists believe in GW and that humans are the cause or accelerating the process. (Yet somehow armchair republicans know better?)

Fact: what was 250 parts per million in CO2 and methane pre industrial revolution, is now 400 parts per million.

When you say it is a lie or a hoax you just sound crazy or completely incapable of accepting an unemotional and logical factual analysis. You are also saying that every scientist is somehow in on some grand design to do what?


When you fart in a room it stinks and it has an adverse effect. This isnt rocket surgery
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Old 12-07-2016 | 11:35 PM
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Global Climate change isn't a theory. Not believing in global warming is just plain ridiculous.


Yeah. Right. OK.

...and Trump is never going to be the President, either. You can keep your doctor if you like your doctor. ISIS is a JV team. There is a red line in Syria. Experience doesn't matter. Babies in the womb aren't babies. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Ho hum.

Don't you people ever get tired of your lies being proven wrong time after time after time?

Fortunately, the American people are tired of them. It's why your ilk has been returned to the political fringe where it came from and you now only control the governor's mansion and legislatures in just 4 states (2 more must cast tie-breaking votes).

Abe Lincoln said it best...

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Enjoy regulating cow farts in La La Land.



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Old 12-07-2016 | 11:43 PM
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Not to worry, when the Big Blue Marble tires of us, it will shake us off like so many fleas.
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Old 12-08-2016 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt


Yeah. Right. OK.

...and Trump is never going to be the President, either. You can keep your doctor if you like your doctor. ISIS is a JV team. There is a red line in Syria. Experience doesn't matter. Babies in the womb aren't babies. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Ho hum.

Don't you people ever get tired of your lies being proven wrong time after time after time?

Fortunately, the American people are tired of them. It's why your ilk has been returned to the political fringe where it came from and you now only control the governor's mansion and legislatures in just 4 states (2 more must cast tie-breaking votes).

Abe Lincoln said it best...

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Enjoy regulating cow farts in La La Land.


Wait, so you are correlating people not believing Trump could be President to Anthropogenic Global Warming? That makes no logical sense. This isn't a "liberal" cause. This is a human cause. Almost every single country on acknowledges it as an imminent threat. There only people who don't are Republicans because they are owned by Big Business special interests and North Korea. You don't get to vote for Global Warning. This isn't some subjective saber rattling or bluff like a line in the sand. You've provided zero proof(I.e science) to it being a hoax. You can post all the ignorant cartoons you want. By making a connection between Trump getting elected and global warming, you are showing how incredibly misinformed you are. This isn't zero sum. Just because Republicans won this election doesn't mean science is now magically wrong and liberalism is dead. Senate Democrats actually gained two seats. I don't know why you keep harping on abortion rights. It has absolutely no relevancy to what we are talking about.
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Old 12-08-2016 | 04:09 AM
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Don't worry, kiddo. It's possible (not to be confused with probable) that at least one of you wackos' predictions will come true. Someday.

Meantime, you've got cow farts to stop. Better hurry or we're all gonna die.

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Old 12-08-2016 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There only people who don't are Republicans because they are owned by Big Business special interests and North Korea.
This quote alone negates you're credibility and ability to have a cogent debate. 'North Korea'? That is a first! By the way, where are all the killer hurricanes hitting the East Coast? It has been a very slow decade for hurricanes contrary to the predictions of Al Gore and his ilk.
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Old 12-08-2016 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
Fact: 97.4% of scientists believe in GW and that humans are the cause or accelerating the process. (Yet somehow armchair republicans know better?)

Fact: what was 250 parts per million in CO2 and methane pre industrial revolution, is now 400 parts per million.

When you say it is a lie or a hoax you just sound crazy or completely incapable of accepting an unemotional and logical factual analysis. You are also saying that every scientist is somehow in on some grand design to do what?


When you fart in a room it stinks and it has an adverse effect. This isnt rocket surgery
You better do a little more research on your "facts."
The study reporting the 97% consensus “Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature” by John Cook, and friends under the halo of the University of Queensland was published in 2013 and according to Watts Up With That when the source data for the study was published on line the University of Queensland got so worried, they threatened a lawsuit over use of Cook’s ’97% consensus’ data for a scientific rebuttal.
The way the study was conducted was Cook and his buddies looked at peer reviewed studies and classified them a either agreeing or disagreeing with the hypothesis. The 97% figure was really 97% of the studies they reviewed. However investigative journalists at Popular Technology reported the 97% Study falsely classifies scientists’ papers, according to the scientists that published them
Popular Tech. looked into precisely which papers were classified within Cook’s asserted 97 percent. The investigative journalists found Cook and his colleagues strikingly classified papers by such prominent, vigorous skeptics as Willie Soon, Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir Shaviv, Nils-Axel Morner and Alan Carlin as supporting the 97-percent consensus.
Cook and his colleagues, for example, classified a peer-reviewed paper by scientist Craig Idso as explicitly supporting the ‘consensus’ position on global warming “without minimizing” the asserted severity of global warming. When Popular Technology asked Idso whether this was an accurate characterization of his paper, Idso responded, “That is not an accurate representation of my paper. The papers examined how the rise in atmospheric CO2 could be inducing a phase advance in the spring portion of the atmosphere’s seasonal CO2 cycle. Other literature had previously claimed a measured advance was due to rising temperatures, but we showed that it was quite likely the rise in atmospheric CO2 itself was responsible for the lion’s share of the change. It would be incorrect to claim that our paper was an endorsement of CO2-induced global warming.”
A more extensive examination of the Cook study by the New American, reported that out of the nearly 12,000 scientific papers Cook’s team evaluated, only 65 endorsed Cook’s alarmist position. That is less than 0.97%.
The crucial point here is the qualifying clause, “of those who have an opinion.” In other words, even the highly questionable Cook study doesn’t actually claim, as President Obama does, that “Ninety-seven percent of scientists agree.” In fact, when examined closely, one finds that the study says only one-third of the authors of the published research papers they examined expressed an opinion that the Cook team interpreted as either an implicit or explicit endorsement of AGW. So now its 97 percent of one-third of selected scientists in a sampling of research papers. That’s a far cry from the 97 percent of all scientists claimed by President Obama and many of the media stories. And, as we will show below, even this admitted dramatically lower consensus claimed by the study is fraught with problems and falls apart further under examination.
Another criticism of the Cook and buddies paper is they didn’t define the “consensus” they were looking for. Is the 97% for people who believe the global warming is real, or people who believe its real and caused by mankind.
From the data and methodology Cook has allowed the public to see, the 97% consensus figure is totally bogus, and the fact he preventing full disclosure of his data, via University of Queensland, by threatening legal action suggests there may be more nefarious things being withheld.
The bottom line is that Senator Cruz was correct and Sierra Club president Aaron Mair was full of baloney (or at least the people sitting behind him feeding him answers). And for their baloney they get the worst rating on our global warming liar scale…four ugly Christmas sweaters (because some scientists say we are going to have a mini ice age soon and they will need to keep warm).
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Old 12-08-2016 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Did anyone notice that Trump just saved 1,400 blue-collar union jobs at Carrier, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet??
Actually, it was 800 & look how Trump responded to their union leader who corrected him. Carrier still outsourcing far more jobs to Mexico.

https://apple.news/Aql0yPcGLQwSNnaeriNmEag


And check out who our new DOT Secretary's father is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao
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