Trans States acknowledges MRJ scope issues
02-24-2015, 06:07 AM
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Trans States acknowledges MRJ scope issues
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Trans States Holdings said it begin taking delivery of “its order for 50 Mitsubishi Regional Jets” in 2017. Speaking “on the sidelines of the delivery ceremony for American Airlines’ first Embraer E-175 in” Brazil, Trans States president Richard Leach conceded that the MRJ90s the company “has on order will have a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) that is higher than is allowed by scope clauses in US mainline airlines’ pilot labor contracts.” Trans States, the parent of US-based regionals Trans States Airlines, Compass Airlines and GoJet Airlines, has not decided “which major airline Trans States will operate the MRJ90s for.”
02-24-2015, 06:18 AM
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[QUOTE=tom11011;1830907]This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
02-24-2015, 06:27 AM
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[QUOTE=PilotLife4me;1830916]
Yes, they know something you don't.
Originally Posted by tom11011
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
Yes, they know something you don't.
02-24-2015, 06:49 AM
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They could also lease them to the majors.
02-24-2015, 06:58 AM
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Another step backwards for everyone if these MRJ90s are parked at any regional carrier. I pray to little baby jesus tonight, "Dear 9lbs 8oz little sweet baby jesus, please give strength to all mainline pilots everywhere to raise the middle finger in the face of any regional manager that even mentions scope". In all his little cute glory ...AMEN
02-24-2015, 07:01 AM
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[QUOTE=PilotLife4me;1830916]
i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)
Originally Posted by tom11011
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.
02-24-2015, 07:04 AM
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[QUOTE=IlliniPilot99;1830944]
i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)
It's not the number of seats, it's MTOW, right?
Either way, 175s should not/never have been at the regionals - they should be flown by mainline because they do mainline routes.
Originally Posted by PilotLife4me
i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)
Either way, 175s should not/never have been at the regionals - they should be flown by mainline because they do mainline routes.
02-24-2015, 07:07 AM
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[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]
So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
Hub to hub and 1,000 plus NM is a no brainer.
Originally Posted by snippercr
So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
02-24-2015, 07:08 AM
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[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]
So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
hub to hub or hub to city that allows only a certain number of passenger seat miles per hour
Originally Posted by snippercr
So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
02-24-2015, 07:10 AM
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Hub to hub and 1,000 plus NM is a no brainer.
They routinely put 145s and 200s on hub-to-hub routes. Does that make those airplanes a mainline aircraft?
I agree about the 1000nm part though. A 3-hour flight is a mainline flight. Anything over 1.5-2 really.
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Hub to hub and 1,000 plus NM is a no brainer.
I agree about the 1000nm part though. A 3-hour flight is a mainline flight. Anything over 1.5-2 really.
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