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tom11011 02-24-2015 06:07 AM

Trans States acknowledges MRJ scope issues
 
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Trans States Holdings said it begin taking delivery of “its order for 50 Mitsubishi Regional Jets” in 2017. Speaking “on the sidelines of the delivery ceremony for American Airlines’ first Embraer E-175 in” Brazil, Trans States president Richard Leach conceded that the MRJ90s the company “has on order will have a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) that is higher than is allowed by scope clauses in US mainline airlines’ pilot labor contracts.” Trans States, the parent of US-based regionals Trans States Airlines, Compass Airlines and GoJet Airlines, has not decided “which major airline Trans States will operate the MRJ90s for.”

PilotLife4me 02-24-2015 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=tom11011;1830907]This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline


Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.

NVUS 02-24-2015 06:27 AM

[QUOTE=PilotLife4me;1830916]

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1830907)
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline


Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.


Yes, they know something you don't.

Maingear 02-24-2015 06:49 AM

They could also lease them to the majors.

Papa Bear 02-24-2015 06:58 AM

Another step backwards for everyone if these MRJ90s are parked at any regional carrier. I pray to little baby jesus tonight, "Dear 9lbs 8oz little sweet baby jesus, please give strength to all mainline pilots everywhere to raise the middle finger in the face of any regional manager that even mentions scope". In all his little cute glory ...AMEN

IlliniPilot99 02-24-2015 07:01 AM

[QUOTE=PilotLife4me;1830916]

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1830907)
This was on the ALPA daily email.
Trans States expects first MRJ in 2017; awaits scope clause relief | Airframes content from ATWOnline


Skywest also has a 100 orders for the MRJ 90. Do they know something we don't? Lets all hope that the mainline pilots never let scope limits allow this big of an airplane, it belongs at the mainline. Hopefully TSA and Skywest just change their orders to MRJ70s.

i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)

snippercr 02-24-2015 07:04 AM

[QUOTE=IlliniPilot99;1830944]

Originally Posted by PilotLife4me (Post 1830916)

i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)

It's not the number of seats, it's MTOW, right?

Either way, 175s should not/never have been at the regionals - they should be flown by mainline because they do mainline routes.

block30 02-24-2015 07:07 AM

[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]

Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1830949)

So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?

Hub to hub and 1,000 plus NM is a no brainer.

IlliniPilot99 02-24-2015 07:08 AM

[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]

Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1830949)

So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?

hub to hub or hub to city that allows only a certain number of passenger seat miles per hour


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