As long as you guys keep showing up to work at these airlines they will continue to grow. Every time scope concessions occur people said it would never be allowed. They wont stop until you are flying narrow body 150 seaters and getting paid 20k to sit right seat in an airbus.

Then what do you suggest prospective pilots do to build time to get enough magic hours to get hired by a non-hiring major? We can't make people retire at 60. We can't suggest you sell your 3rd house and take a pay cut to avoid scope losses.

Any route that was once flown by mainline pilots.





Yes, all of them.

Compass does a lot of LAX-SEA in 175's.

It has nothing to do with hours needed. The majors have the exact same regulations as the regionals and the exact same hiring requirements to do the exact same job. If you are willing to work for $20k per year then that's what they'll pay.

Regional pilots are nothing more than mainline pilots working on a B scale.

Airline hiring minimums are solely a function of supply and the available pool of pilots. What do you think the hiring minimums would be at the majors if regional airlines didn't exist?

E-170 was a mainline plane(Mid-Atlantic)before Airways sold them off.

Mainline pilots have a bad history of selling scope for preservation

Yep...and we will continue until there's nothing left.

And I was simply stating all of them if it using the mainline code.

Please stay strong on scope, and encourage your fellow pilots to do the same then. Most of us here in the minor leagues want to see you guys doing as much flying as possible.

If it were feasible to get hired at a major and skip the regional game we would. For many of us this is the best way to get competitive and move on to a career type carrier. Essentially saying "don't work for that kind of pay" is akin to us saying "don't vote away scope." Easier said than done.

Spot on! There is no difference between an E170 and an E190, both are the same type. The regionals exist because the market was saturated with pilots hungry for a flying job. Management dangled the "Big Iron" in front of the mainline pilots for a few "regional jets" to be outsourced. We all know where that led us.

Here we are today......an industry starving for pilots at the regional level because the pipeline is full, and flowing at a high rate, in to the mainline. Over the next few years I suspect we'll see mainline pilots flying more of these routes while regionals shrink to the supply of pilot applicants. You may even see mainline taking pilots out of flight training. It's not like that hasn't ever happened, in fact, UA interns got hired straight out of college.

The mrj hasn't even had it's first flight yet. It is scheduled to be delivered in 2017. That's at least two years from now. That might as well be a decade in aviation time. Skybus might have returned by then who knows what things will look like.

Only thing I've heard is they might take some seats out and certify it for weight that fits scope.