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Old 02-24-2015 | 07:11 AM
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[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]
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So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
Whatever mainline scope says it is....
Old 02-24-2015 | 07:12 AM
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i agree with your philosophy but the MRJ is no bigger than the 170/175 ( i believe 70-80 seats)
TSA and Skywest ordered the MRJ 90 series.....that's the 86 to 96 seat version
Old 02-24-2015 | 07:16 AM
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They routinely put 145s and 200s on hub-to-hub routes. Does that make those airplanes a mainline aircraft?
Sure. Let's put them back to mainline.
Old 02-24-2015 | 07:22 AM
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[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830959]
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So who is flying 175's from hub to hub?
before coming to TSA...shuttle america almost did exclusive hub to hub

ORD to EWR
EWR to IAH
IAD to IAH
IAD to DFW
DEN to IAH

and tons more
Old 02-24-2015 | 07:47 AM
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Had a SkyWest corporate officer in my jumpseat, not saying who but he's a big shot. SkyWest will never see the MRJ. Many moons ago when it was choosing between buying the CRJ-200 and the ERJ-145 they had both companies bring one to St George, this while knowing full well that they were going with CRJ's all along. That is THE BEST way to get somebody that's selling something to come down on the price. Fast forward to now, same trick, I even know how much it's going to cost to back out of the deal. To you and me its a lot but the cost saving will be realized with just two aircraft orders. Also long term plan here is to go with an all ERJ fleet, but that's WAAAAAYY down the road. And our airframe count is coming down too, there's been articles in industry publications so this isn't new news. Right now SkyWest Inc. has about 740 airframes and it will come down to 600 total across both companies. Canadair apparently sucks for supporting the 200's and the 900's are being delivered with a known AD that costs over a million to fix when the time comes up. But as we all know things are not set in stone when it comes to planning. Good example is, the EMB-120, same guy was tasked with winding down those three different times, he was always able to find a nice balance of spare aircraft vs. block hours and turn a tidy profit since they mostly went into high yield markets. Then Part 117, and the one remaining parts supplier charging a fortune for parts, and its over in a couple months. But then MRJ's could all of a sudden be selling for half off and then the metrics change drastically.... that's life!!!!
Old 02-24-2015 | 07:55 AM
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[QUOTE=Mercyful Fate;1830954]
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So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
Everything flown under the the mainline code like UA, or DL is a mainline route. Some are outsourced, and some are not.
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[QUOTE=24/48;1831016]
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate

Everything flown under the the mainline code like UA, or DL is a mainline route. Some are outsourced, and some are not.
we all know that he was asking what should constitute a regional vs mainline route.
Old 02-24-2015 | 08:13 AM
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As long as you guys keep showing up to work at these airlines they will continue to grow. Every time scope concessions occur people said it would never be allowed. They wont stop until you are flying narrow body 150 seaters and getting paid 20k to sit right seat in an airbus.
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Originally Posted by NineGturn
As long as you guys keep showing up to work at these airlines they will continue to grow. Every time scope concessions occur people said it would never be allowed. They wont stop until you are flying narrow body 150 seaters and getting paid 20k to sit right seat in an airbus.
Then what do you suggest prospective pilots do to build time to get enough magic hours to get hired by a non-hiring major? We can't make people retire at 60. We can't suggest you sell your 3rd house and take a pay cut to avoid scope losses.
Old 02-24-2015 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
So, what exactly defines a "mainline" route?
Any route that was once flown by mainline pilots.





Yes, all of them.

Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
So who is flying 175's from hub to hub?
Compass does a lot of LAX-SEA in 175's.
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