Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2256214)

Since Bush signed this agreement for the US-EU treaty, Trump has the power to get out of the treaty with a stoke of a pen. Congress wasn't involved so Trump doesnt need congress. Alot of people think that this treaty can just stay and we have to follow the rules... we can get out of this treaty just as easy as they got in...

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2256222)

That's the good Norwegian, NAI is the bad one.

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2256222)

That's the good Norwegian, NAI is the bad one.

Originally Posted by NEDude (Post 2256238)

And who do you think you would benefit from that? Kill the treaty and go back to what you had before and Heathrow becomes restricted to only American and United again. Delta has to head back out to Gatwick as they were before the treaty. You honestly think that would be good for business?

Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2256265)

Where you live NEDude? and all I said is that Trump can reverse it by stroke of a pen...

Originally Posted by NEDude (Post 2256234)

The UK is still part of the EU. If your argument that The contracts are based in the UK (which they are - Ipswich, UK to be exact) but the airline is in Ireland, and that is the reason they should be denied, then you lose on the principle of precedent. Brussels Airlines has DOT approval yet hires pilots on Contracts based in the UK. WOW Airlines has DOT approval and yet despite being an Icelandic airline, hires pilots on contracts with agencies based in the UAE, Isle of Man, and Germany. Even further they use a subcontract Lithuanian airline to do some of their flying which uses contracts based out of Cyprus and Malta.

As for cutting off all US-EU flying to "protect these scabs" (seriously, where is the strike?), clearly they would not do that. But they certainly would begin a tit for tat reduction, perhaps reducing US rights to Heathrow as an example. So tell me, who benefits from an EU-US Open Skies war?

And again, please tell me which provision of the Open Skies treaty did NAI use to violate Article 17 bis? You'd think if you were so sure that they did, it would be easy to cite which provision.

Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2256289)

You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this and not biased. In your opinion is this going to crush US airlines like we've been led to believe?

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2256302)

It will be the Southwest effect, but this time on the international market.

Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2256265)

Where you live NEDude? and all I said is that Trump can reverse it by stroke of a pen...

Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2256315)

Hopefully our airlines can adapt to the changing times and be proactive. Whether that be the ME3, NAI or whatever pops up next. Our careers depend on it.