Deny NAI failed, given final approval by DOT
12-05-2016, 02:07 PM
#191
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Originally Posted by Csy Mon
Why on earth would anyone want to quit a US legacy airline for NAI????
12-05-2016, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomhawker
Point of note. His post isn't necessarily a demonstration of an ad hominem fallacy. He referenced future statements made, not an arbitrary negative quality. All ad hominem isn't fallacious. That gets misused a lot on forums.
12-05-2016, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
FoC allows aircraft manufactures to explore other options, such as machine learning, and other drone technologies. I've said before on here, machine learning, and FoC is the death of the pilot profession. Today we have this
Soon there will be self driving cars, then self flying aircraft, machine learning will kill most of the jobs in this country. The current regulations do not allow a 121 aircraft with less than two pilots be certified, FoC removes that requirement. That's our only protection, as this technology is available today, not in the future.
Soon there will be self driving cars, then self flying aircraft, machine learning will kill most of the jobs in this country. The current regulations do not allow a 121 aircraft with less than two pilots be certified, FoC removes that requirement. That's our only protection, as this technology is available today, not in the future.
I agree with you. However, getting on a plane with no pilot will be a bridge to far for some people. After the German wings incident I'd say a plane with two pilots will be required for a while. AI will be able to replace us, but I'd give it 20-30 years before we need to worry about it.
Now if I were a truck driver I'd be cr@piping my pants right now.
12-05-2016, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Soon there will be self driving cars, then self flying aircraft, machine learning will kill most of the jobs in this country.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQNQqwFK-OM
12-05-2016, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Here is a link to a company that is replacing legal clerks with AI.
http://www.rossintelligence.com
Here is video of a fully autonomous Tesla today.
https://youtu.be/C3DbrYx-SN4
Experts give it about 20 years until AI is smarter than us. Here is a great article about it. Mind bending stuff.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html
12-05-2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Those of us in the regional business have been dealing with "race to the bottom" for years while you mainline guys have enjoyed huge raises....Sorry if we don't have sympathy for you...Maybe you should have had some concern for us.
Oh wait.
12-05-2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
Wait, what?!
The EU most certainly did go to bat for NAI, by filing for independent arbitration, as called for in the Open Skies treaty, on behalf of NAI. It was this filing for arbitration that caused the US DOT to finally relent because, in their own words, there was no legal grounds to deny the approval. The DOT knew they would lose in arbitration because NOBODY has cited which provision NAI used to violate Article 17 bis of the Open Skies Treaty. If you know which provision they used, I am sure ALPA and the US DOT would love to know because they have yet to name it.
I still want to know how anyone can argue that NAI is circumventing EU labour laws by sneakily registering in an EU country.
The EU most certainly did go to bat for NAI, by filing for independent arbitration, as called for in the Open Skies treaty, on behalf of NAI. It was this filing for arbitration that caused the US DOT to finally relent because, in their own words, there was no legal grounds to deny the approval. The DOT knew they would lose in arbitration because NOBODY has cited which provision NAI used to violate Article 17 bis of the Open Skies Treaty. If you know which provision they used, I am sure ALPA and the US DOT would love to know because they have yet to name it.
I still want to know how anyone can argue that NAI is circumventing EU labour laws by sneakily registering in an EU country.
The opportunities created by the Agreement are not intended to undermine labor standards or the labor-related rights and principles contained in the Parties' respective laws.
12-05-2016, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Experts give it about 20 years until AI is smarter than us. Here is a great article about it. Mind bending stuff.
The Artificial Intelligence Revolution: Part 1 - Wait But Why
The Artificial Intelligence Revolution: Part 1 - Wait But Why
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