Taxi Light Usage
01-24-2017, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Do you flash your left or right landing light when making turns on the taxiways too? 
01-24-2017, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
On the runway the lights should be on, cleared for t/o landing lights on, sorry but safety comes first. Good luck
But whatever. Discretion was never an important part of this job anyway
01-24-2017, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Read the best practices from the FAA
"Turn off your taxi or landing lights when stopped, yielding or as a consideration to other pilots, drivers or ground personnel." (my highlight to bring attention to this part of their statement)
That's all we are trying to say here. If you are blasting the guy across the runway with your taxi light while turning into position, you are not increasing safety at all. At all. Once you are facing down the runway, turn it back on if you turned it off. Be illuminated. Absolutely.
And yes, of course, if there's no one you'll blast with your taxi light, absolutely turn on those lights as you're rolling into position.
01-24-2017, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Within that document, page 18 specifically (as you linked us to a couple of pages back) says this:
"Turn off your taxi or landing lights when stopped, yielding or as a consideration to other pilots, drivers or ground personnel." (my highlight to bring attention to this part of their statement)
That's all we are trying to say here. If you are blasting the guy across the runway with your taxi light while turning into position, you are not increasing safety at all. At all. Once you are facing down the runway, turn it back on if you turned it off. Be illuminated. Absolutely.
And yes, of course, if there's no one you'll blast with your taxi light, absolutely turn on those lights as you're rolling into position.
"Turn off your taxi or landing lights when stopped, yielding or as a consideration to other pilots, drivers or ground personnel." (my highlight to bring attention to this part of their statement)
That's all we are trying to say here. If you are blasting the guy across the runway with your taxi light while turning into position, you are not increasing safety at all. At all. Once you are facing down the runway, turn it back on if you turned it off. Be illuminated. Absolutely.
And yes, of course, if there's no one you'll blast with your taxi light, absolutely turn on those lights as you're rolling into position.
01-24-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Or just don't stare directly at a plane when they get any kind of runway related clearance. Even briefly looking at full lights doesn't "ruin your night vision" come on. Turn the screens up a tiny bit.
BA 747 is cleared for TO from the south side of pad, angled towards us as we cross the approach lights, Flips on every light on that whale into our face. Thought I was Randy Quaid flying an F18 into the bottom of an alien earth destroyer.
I think I still had spots on my eyes driving home on I95
Just try to be considerate.
01-24-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Ok. How many times has a jet hit another aircraft that was sitting on the runway waiting to take off at night? Yes, there have been jets that have flown over others sitting in position, but as far as I know, it's happened only one time.
Anyway, getting back to REALITY here for a moment, there is NO safety issue with turning off your nose light for a moment if you see another jet in front of you. it's just polite. And by the way, MOST pilots do this, thankfully. However, for YOU, I'll turn on ALL my lights right into your face. You know. For safety. 🤔
(When I'm a captain again, lol)
Anyway, getting back to REALITY here for a moment, there is NO safety issue with turning off your nose light for a moment if you see another jet in front of you. it's just polite. And by the way, MOST pilots do this, thankfully. However, for YOU, I'll turn on ALL my lights right into your face. You know. For safety. 🤔
(When I'm a captain again, lol)
01-24-2017, 12:48 PM
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The whole lights thing is a "courtesy manner" pilots should be considerate of others. There is competition everywhere but at the end of the day we are all on the same team. Another annoying issue is when pilots just randomly throw chocks on the ramp by an FBO instead of taking them back to where they belong. Sure its the ramp guy's job to put them back and clean up the ramp but sometimes they can't get to it right away. One day I saw 4 chocks just laying around at my home FBO and it was as if I was driving around cones. I asked the ramp guy about it and he was the only one working and was busy fueling up airlines.
01-24-2017, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Within that document, page 18 specifically (as you linked us to a couple of pages back) says this:
"Turn off your taxi or landing lights when stopped, yielding or as a consideration to other pilots, drivers or ground personnel." (my highlight to bring attention to this part of their statement)
That's all we are trying to say here. If you are blasting the guy across the runway with your taxi light while turning into position, you are not increasing safety at all. At all. Once you are facing down the runway, turn it back on if you turned it off. Be illuminated. Absolutely.
And yes, of course, if there's no one you'll blast with your taxi light, absolutely turn on those lights as you're rolling into position.
"Turn off your taxi or landing lights when stopped, yielding or as a consideration to other pilots, drivers or ground personnel." (my highlight to bring attention to this part of their statement)
That's all we are trying to say here. If you are blasting the guy across the runway with your taxi light while turning into position, you are not increasing safety at all. At all. Once you are facing down the runway, turn it back on if you turned it off. Be illuminated. Absolutely.
And yes, of course, if there's no one you'll blast with your taxi light, absolutely turn on those lights as you're rolling into position.
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