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01-16-2026 | 03:35 AM
#31
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I'm not following the situation closely, but I understand that one of our combat aviators of the first Gulf War, Captain Mark Kelly, USN, is facing some political pressure at the current time. Military people are subject to the whims of whatever political leaders are currently holding power.
Russian, American, Ukrainian, German, or whatever, the military men and women rely on their political leadership to exercise their best judgment. When the political leadership makes poor decisions, the military suffers. It has always been that way.
Russian, American, Ukrainian, German, or whatever, the military men and women rely on their political leadership to exercise their best judgment. When the political leadership makes poor decisions, the military suffers. It has always been that way.
01-21-2026 | 07:38 AM
#32
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I agree that his comments were in poor taste. As a US Senator he should have simply resigned his commission before pushing the boundaries to that degree, not like he needs the chump change at his level of play. If you take the king's coin, you are beholden to the crown to at least some degree.
For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.
The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.
For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.
The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.
01-25-2026 | 06:16 PM
#33
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I agree that his comments were in poor taste. As a US Senator he should have simply resigned his commission before pushing the boundaries to that degree, not like he needs the chump change at his level of play. If you take the king's coin, you are beholden to the crown to at least some degree.
For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.
The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.
For those not aware military officer "retired" isn't what you think it is... it's actually "retainer" pay, you retain your commission, are subject to recall in emergency, and are expected to behave with some decorum. At some advanced age you do actually become "retired" in the conventional sense.
The courts will decide exactly where the line is drawn. Worst they'll be able to do is reduce him in rank to the last grade at which he honorably served, which would be O5. O5 pay with 30 years is good beer money.
03-21-2026 | 06:52 AM
#34
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You do know why Crayola only made 64 count boxes. That’s a s high as Marines can count. 170, 340, etc are numbers meaningless to the “Corps”.😉
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