Eric Stratton

it's a slow day for the eric...what's a delta widget?

after looking at the graph I noticed the nwa side of 06-08 is off. according to my buddy who is a new hire they've hired roughly 200 and hasn't delta hired more than 400 so far? could be a moot point but makes me wonder how accurate everything else is.

DAL4EVER

The widget is the triangle logo for DAL. DAL has hired around 400 this year and around 700 total since hiring started last year.

Eric Stratton

the triangle that points northwest on the left side....

looks like they were both off.

Scoop

[quote=Eric Stratton;367372]the triangle that points northwest on the left side....

Speaking of that - Why does the triangle point to Northeast on the other side?

Scoop

E1Out

Actually, the Delta April seniority list shows that as of March 17th, 214 pilots have been hired. A class of 32 came in on April 7th, which makes for a current total of 246. There are 2 more classes of 32 pilots expected to come in (April 21 & May 5) for a projected total of 310 for 2008.

Eric Stratton

[QUOTE=Scoop;367469]I'm assuming you are talking about the nwa plane and I have no idea. I always thought it was about as smart as putting NWA on the side of the plane. they must not have been fans of 80's/90's rap.

Mike Caputo

This information has a lot of meaning to it... and gives some definition to what lies ahead.

If you were to pose the two or three main takeaways from these graphs, what would they be?

Just interested... and wondering what to make of it all.

Thanks for helping the novice.

Carl Spackler

Mike,

In my opinion, the main stumbling block is illustrated in the bar graph displayed on post #4. It shows roughly the top third of each pilot group and the bottom third. I'm fairly certain the middle third was not shown because there is very little disparity in that section. From the anecdotal information it appears Delta's proposed SLI is based on a ratio that keeps everyone within their same "relative position" on the new list compared to their position on their old list. For a number of reasons, we have the great disparity that is shown on the bar graph. Here is the problem with a straight ratio:
1. Since NWA has a much greater number of senior pilots in the top third compared to Delta, a ratio would put a number of Delta pilots (who were hired after NWA pilots) senior to NWA pilots (who were hired earlier). Without job loss protections, this could allow a Delta pilot (with a later date of hire) to bid an NWA aircraft and bump that NWA pilot (with an earlier date of hire) to a lesser paying aircraft.

2. Since Delta has a much greater number of junior pilots in the bottom third compared to NWA, a ratio would put a number of Delta pilots (who were hired after NWA pilots) senior to NWA pilots (who were hired earlier). This particular issue is where the heart of the problem appears to lie. With this demographic disparity in the bottom third, if the new company should need to reduce capacity and layoff pilots, NWA pilots (with earlier dates of hire) could be laid off while Delta pilots (with later dates of hire) would retain their jobs.

Sorry for the length of this post, but that's it in a nutshell.

Carl

Invisible Man

[QUOTE=Scoop;367469]I think it the same reason the U.S. flag is backwards on the right side of the plane.
IM

Carl Spackler

Now THAT'S funny!...I don't care who you are.

Carl