This may have been posted before. These are the payrates as of Jan 1, 2008 for the NW fleet incorporated into the Delta contract via LOA 19.


747-400 191.13
747-200 187.50
787 183.10
A330 174.08
A319/20 148.03
DC-9 138.05


These are Capt. at 12yrs. With LOA 19 the Jan 1,2009 rates will be increased 5%.

I got the chance to listen to Lee Moak and the rest of the DALPA leadership today. The overridng concern of all of them is to get a single contract and merge our pilot groups as soon as possible.

 

do these rates take effect at the merger date or only with a SLI?

 

Only with an SLI and the closing of the merger...it's called leverage.

Carl

 

At the Date of Corporate Closure (DCC). The rates listed plus 5% will go into effect on Jan 1, 2009. If the DCC has not been completed by Jan 1 then the pay will be retroactive.

If things work out right these rates will not go into effect and we will be working under on contract. I guess they are a benchmark from which to start negotiating a common agreement.

 

Not quite right, Carl. Unless you can get a deal with your management using the leverage that you have, it's only with the closing of the corporate deal (merger transaction) and when we have a joint contract. My bet is that DAL pushes for contract first, then SLI, to avoid a replay of what's going on at LCC. Also, the seniority list has no impact on either DAL or NWA pilots until a joint contract is implemented and the carrier has a single operating certificate. Prior to that time the operations are independent, and there's no commingling of pilot crews.

Richard Anderson and Ed Bastian stood in front of 2000 Delta employees Tuesday and said their goal was a joint contract for the pilots prior to the corporate deal closing. With a joint contract and completed SLI, they can maximize the revenue and minimize the costs associated with the pilot portions of this merger. Without them, they don't get some of the cost savings and leave some of the revenue on the table. Again, look at LCC.

Each day that there's delay in completing the deal (both corporate and pilot) there'll be less money on the table for us to fight over. Stephens may think he's doing some great positioning on youtube, but he's arguing about missing pushback with a gate agent. The plane has departed.

 

thanks sully

was equity included if it's done before the merger date?

 

what leverage? oh.. MANAGEMENT's leverage... ours was squandered.

 

really....

it's the carrot in front of the NWA pilots. the sooner you give into deltas idea of a SLI the sooner you get the raise. there is no incentive for delta to negociate, only nwa.

besides the pay if you decide to furlough and delta has a no furlough clause and nwa doesn't, who gets furloughed? if it's only nwa then that is a lot of leverage for delta pilots. I don't know if it works that way but if it does, and you start furloughing, you have to ask yourself would delta pilots just walk away at that point.

 

Anybody know of the FO rates?

Thanks

 

Delta 12 year FO rates are 68.3% of Captain rates. These are approximate, as the paytables haven't been published yet: