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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 503962)
You got your exodus of retirements and now you are going for ours.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 504041)
Make note of the following:
NWA guys on this board are not bashing DAL guys. Even though you guys trashed us in the first 3 days of arbitration, we did NOT respond in kind at the arbitration, and we're NOT doing it now. Carl |
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 504594)
All I know is that every time a guy who turns to me, whether pre DL or NW, and starts to tell me how they got screwed in the merger, I'm packing up my bags at the first opportunity and removing myself from the trip.
But, the real deal as I've said before, is I'll never talk about all this to a post merger new hire. I've sat through enough red/green discussions to last a lifetime, the new guys won't get any of this and will just want it to end. Ferd |
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 504601)
What do you think would happen if I put every captain's emp # down on the Do Not Fly with list?:cool:
Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 504041)
Make note of the following:
NWA guys on this board are not bashing DAL guys. Even though you guys trashed us in the first 3 days of arbitration, we did NOT respond in kind at the arbitration, and we're NOT doing it now. You do not have a sense of humor. The vast majority of my posts are defending the latest negative BS about the former NWA posted by some DAL pilot purporting to show "facts." Here's a deal, stop all the former NWA bashing and that will cut down on the posts here. If you don't have something positive to say, just shut up. It's not like we all don't have enough negativity going on right now. Carl |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 504677)
I agree! But, we may never fly again as has been pointed out:D
But, the real deal as I've said before, is I'll never talk about all this to a post merger new hire. I've sat through enough red/green discussions to last a lifetime, the new guys won't get any of this and will just want it to end. Ferd Now that is a great idea! We shoul all have to take a blood oath once the list comes out - no talking about how we were "all" screwed. Scoop |
Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
(Post 504665)
Ss you buddy Carl states, those guys didn't retire when they were NWA. They are now Delta and should be shared accordingly. Can't have it both ways.:D
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 507292)
We want our retirements as you got yours a while back. Fair is fair. Stop going for ours after you got yours. Secondly, our 9s coming out of the desert and our tightly run ship is paying you back for your European over expansion. Stop shooting for the moon.
Can you produce any source for nines coming out of the desert. They are going to the desert almost weekly. In fact I had posted here that we would be down to 62 nines by the end of the year. I was in error. It now appears the actual number is 58. Next year however the rate of retirements slows and they expect only 14 to go to the desert. Lets hope that is true. It would be great if they decided to keep more or bring them back however no one expects that to happen who is involved with fleet planning at Delta. The costs on keeping the nines are to high. No nine will undergo the required aging aircraft inspections when they time out. They are far to expensive. It would be much cheaper even with oil at 50 dollars a barrel to purchase or lease new aircraft. The real issue again as I have posted is how do we get this flying back at the mainline. For the moment it looks bad. The nines are being replaced with 76 seat RJ's. The long promised 100 seater at Delta is still a pipe dream. By extending the contract 3 years we have given up a chance to force the issue before all the nines are gone. Another reason I voted no that has nothing to do with NWA and everything to do with the contract being a bad deal for both NWA and Delta pilots. |
Your over expansion in Europe will cost more than a few 9s going away. But that will not matter...
You know perfectly well that with the price of oil we will be adding 9s and not taking them away. Get over yourself. |
Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 507359)
Your over expansion in Europe will cost more than a few 9s going away. But that will not matter...
You know perfectly well that with the price of oil we will be adding 9s and not taking them away. Get over yourself. Dude, Ive been reading you guys go back and forth, and am interested in where you are getting your data. I don't doubt you, but you have conspicuously ignored requests for the sourcing of your posts. At the risk of having to get over myself too, can you just share with us where you are getting your data. I'm just interested as to how you two could have such different positions. Disclaimer: I have no dog in the DAL/NWA issue , but your new company affects us all. |
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