UAL-CAL... It's official...
05-03-2010 | 06:05 AM
#41
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OK Guys - Make sure this deal includes a nice fat pay raise for the Pilots. At a 15-20% pay bump per merger we can slowly work our way back to a more credible pilot pay scale. 
There is no reason why UAL/CAL should not be the highest paid mainline pilots (dubious distinction at best) after this deal.
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There is no reason why UAL/CAL should not be the highest paid mainline pilots (dubious distinction at best) after this deal.Scoop
05-03-2010 | 06:14 AM
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If ALPA blows this and doesn't get scope nailed down, (at a minimum 70+ seats at mainline but I would like to see 50+) then what good are they as a union?
05-03-2010 | 06:18 AM
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Scope needs to be #1 issue to be nailed down for this merger to work in favor of junior pilots at UAL and CAL.
05-03-2010 | 06:26 AM
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I concur with what you said. There are a lot of junior pilots(including furloughed) at both airlines that will not be happy if they are thrown under the bus again.
05-03-2010 | 06:38 AM
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). But weren't the leases an issue because they came from a raw deal in Chapter 11 or something? Whats the latest and greatest about the 737-500s? And if parked in the next few years... what replaces them? Regionals?
05-03-2010 | 06:40 AM
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Bethune on CNBC says this is "Check mate" in the airline industry, yet it appears he has concerns about the execution. He does think Smizek would be the man to do this, if it can be done.
I do think that, after Glenn and Jeff quit hugging, kissing, and gushing with pride like newlyweds, there are going to be some legitimate questions about whther this will be done right. Undoutdedly, you've got probably the leading brand worldwide if this gets done, but that's just it: will it be done right?
I think your unions might be smart to put a little emphasis on the "execution risk" aspect of this merger. There's money to be made in offering a smoother execution.
I do think that, after Glenn and Jeff quit hugging, kissing, and gushing with pride like newlyweds, there are going to be some legitimate questions about whther this will be done right. Undoutdedly, you've got probably the leading brand worldwide if this gets done, but that's just it: will it be done right?
I think your unions might be smart to put a little emphasis on the "execution risk" aspect of this merger. There's money to be made in offering a smoother execution.
05-03-2010 | 07:05 AM
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First: It aint (and shouldn't) going to be DOH, and DOH would be great for me.
Second: I don't care WHAT color you paint it, just show me the money.
Three: Scope is #1 to me, and I think most of us.
Four: See #3.
Five: So long Tilton. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$.
Second: I don't care WHAT color you paint it, just show me the money.
Three: Scope is #1 to me, and I think most of us.
Four: See #3.
Five: So long Tilton. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$.
05-03-2010 | 07:05 AM
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I think the Delta/NWA, US/AWergers has proven the benefit of working with labor to make the merger as painless as possible. Even if it means making concessions to the pilots for pay, work rules, and even scope. Getting everyone on board and happy will pay dividends down the road.
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