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Old 03-15-2018 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
He’s still at Mesa?
He ain't going nowhere
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Old 03-15-2018 | 03:09 PM
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Why thanks. It’s a good airline for a punchline.

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Old 03-15-2018 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Santos Dumont
We will go to Kallita, of course.
I sure hope it’s not with Kalitta. That is worst case scenario in my eyes, and I’m sure most of our pilots.
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Old 03-16-2018 | 08:10 AM
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I sure hope it’s not with Kalitta. That is worst case scenario in my eyes, and I’m sure most of our pilots.
And cue No Land 3.....
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Old 03-16-2018 | 07:22 PM
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I flew with a guy that went to Kalitta and came back to Mesa
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Old 03-17-2018 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
I flew with a guy that went to Kalitta and came back to Mesa
And I am sure he blamed everyone else but himself. There have been a couple of cases. Do as you see fit, but I must say, being trapped in the regional bubble can be quite blinding.
Worth noting, everyone that has made it out to the line has stayed. Our training is not easy, no hand holding.

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Old 03-17-2018 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
And I am sure he blamed everyone else but himself. There have been a couple of cases. Do as you see fit, but I must say, being trapped in the regional bubble can be quite blinding.
Worth noting, everyone that has made it out to the line has stayed. Our training is not easy, no hand holding.
These stories area amazing. So many people have these elaborate explanations about how they got screwed over by Airline X. But know what I've never heard? "I failed training and now I'm here." The worst ones are those who move on from Mesa after struggling to make it to the line and then bash the company elsewhere, as though they'd be sitting in that seat without Mesa (this goes both ways. Others hire our failures too). Flew with a pilot one time who was openly grateful for the opportunity and honest about the fact that he'd probably not be here without the help Mesa game him. Very refreshing.
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Old 03-17-2018 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HandyUghes
These stories area amazing. So many people have these elaborate explanations about how they got screwed over by Airline X. But know what I've never heard? "I failed training and now I'm here." The worst ones are those who move on from Mesa after struggling to make it to the line and then bash the company elsewhere, as though they'd be sitting in that seat without Mesa (this goes both ways. Others hire our failures too). Flew with a pilot one time who was openly grateful for the opportunity and honest about the fact that he'd probably not be here without the help Mesa game him. Very refreshing.
One of the pilots who used to regularly post here and moved on to Air Wisconsin (for the bonus, left seat and a base near his home) was very open that Mesa took a mid-50’s lawyer who wasn’t current, trained him, and made him a decent airline pilot. He wasn’t sure he would have gotten that opportunity from any other regional.

It worries me a bit that our Ejet training program is struggling. We used to have one of the best programs. Just watching to see if management will make the right changes. Judging on what one of the CA upgrades told me this month, the instructors teaching our Ejet classes now really don’t care.
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Old 03-17-2018 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Judging on what one of the CA upgrades told me this month, the instructors teaching our Ejet classes now really don’t care.
Why should they? There are some good ones, but Mesa doesn't incentivize instructing in a way that would motivate high potential candidates to do the job. The good ones deserve a medal for what they do, and the bad ones need to be sent back to the line. Mesa, in general, doesn't do anything to motivate its employees and now mostly just runs on the naive good will of a young-ish labor group. During the lost decade it was 'just happy to be employed', but that's over. I've known some smart people here that deserve far better. Unfortunately, just as major airline hiring starts picking up, the process becomes closer to random selection than anything we've ever seen, leaving a lot of great people on the sidelines in exchange for 4000-hour XJT FOs. Something interesting will probably happen at Mesa in the not-too-distant future, but not sure whether it's going to be good or bad for employees.
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Old 03-17-2018 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HandyUghes
Why should they? There are some good ones, but Mesa doesn't incentivize instructing in a way that would motivate high potential candidates to do the job. The good ones deserve a medal for what they do, and the bad ones need to be sent back to the line. Mesa, in general, doesn't do anything to motivate its employees and now mostly just runs on the naive good will of a young-ish labor group. During the lost decade it was 'just happy to be employed', but that's over. I've known some smart people here that deserve far better. Unfortunately, just as major airline hiring starts picking up, the process becomes closer to random selection than anything we've ever seen, leaving a lot of great people on the sidelines in exchange for 4000-hour XJT FOs. Something interesting will probably happen at Mesa in the not-too-distant future, but not sure whether it's going to be good or bad for employees.
Heard a rumor we’re buying Frontier and attempt a takeover like republic did. Just what I’ve been told. They didn’t sound too thrilled last week when we taxid behind them and I said “we’ll follow company”
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