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Jungedrache 03-18-2020 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by fastneat (Post 3002947)
Congress just handed United Airlines a check for several billion dollars. Do you think Congress is going to want to hear about Scope and Union contract protection at this time? Hell no they won’t. They want to know, “what are YOU going to do survive this turmoil until this economy turns around?”. The answer? Mesa Airlines!

Turn those mostly empty 737 runs between IAH and DFW into mostly full 175s.

Wait! What about Sky West, Endeavor and all the rest with their 175s? Forget them! Mesa goes first at the front of the line. They cost United the least, therefore allow the most profit for UA to survive. Mesa first, everyone else shuffle in behind them.

We survive!


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I like that mindset!! Nevertheless, United is in the tough spot of pleasing both the government and their Union... Union will never allow us to fly more than them, just stop by their forum to get a feeling of their sentiment on the topic... they’d rather fly our regional jets themselves.

it’s my understanding that under the emergency declaration we are at the Airline can waive scope, but it’s also my understanding that even during 2001 when an emergency state was also declared Majors didn’t exercise that freedom against the union.

fastneat 03-18-2020 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Jungedrache (Post 3002968)
I like that mindset!! Nevertheless, United is in the tough spot of pleasing both the government and their Union... Union will never allow us to fly more than them, just stop by their forum to get a feeling of their sentiment on the topic... they’d rather fly our regional jets themselves.

it’s my understanding that under the emergency declaration we are at the Airline can waive scope, but it’s also my understanding that even during 2001 when an emergency state was also declared Majors didn’t exercise that freedom against the union.

Granted.. even IF they commit to scope, they still would want to use the Regionals as much as possible. And if they do, Mesa would STILL be the Regional they would saturate first, and then all the rest.

Why? We perform better AND we cost less. Bottom line, we’re good for business. And in times like these, I’m just happy to have a job (RIP TSA), and even better, to be on the team that’s good for business.

I’m not normally a rah rah guy, but cmon, Mesa folk! Let’s keep it together and keep being awesome!

TheOtherGuy25 03-18-2020 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by fastneat (Post 3002986)
Granted.. even IF they commit to scope, they still would want to use the Regionals as much as possible. And if they do, Mesa would STILL be the Regional they would saturate first, and then all the rest.

Why? We perform better AND we cost less. Bottom line, we’re good for business. And in times like these, I’m just happy to have a job (RIP TSA), and even better, to be on the team that’s good for business.

I’m not normally a rah rah guy, but cmon, Mesa folk! Let’s keep it together and keep being awesome!

The Kool-aid man must have been furloughed at SkyWest and picked up by Mesa it seems!

fastneat 03-19-2020 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy25 (Post 3003389)
The Kool-aid man must have been furloughed at SkyWest and picked up by Mesa it seems!

and good morning to you, too, Mr. grumpy!

Sniper66 03-20-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by fastneat (Post 3002947)
Congress just handed United Airlines a check for several billion dollars. Do you think Congress is going to want to hear about Scope and Union contract protection at this time? Hell no they won’t. They want to know, “what are YOU going to do to survive this turmoil until this economy turns around?”. The answer? Mesa Airlines!

Turn those mostly empty 737 runs between IAH and DFW into mostly full 175s.

Wait! What about Sky West, Endeavor and all the rest with their 175s? Forget them! Mesa goes first at the front of the line. They cost United the least, therefore allow the most profit for UA to survive. Mesa first, everyone else shuffle in behind them.

We survive!


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keep dreaming
keep dreaming
I see Mesa back to 1325 total pilots by the end of June

Sad but it’s coming

jcool734 03-20-2020 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3005538)
keep dreaming
keep dreaming
I see Mesa back to 1325 total pilots by the end of June

Sad but it’s coming


How many pilots would that cut


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Sniper66 03-20-2020 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3005545)
How many pilots would that cut


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1 would say 300-400

Jungedrache 03-20-2020 05:38 PM

on the Ejet side we only lost like 25% of lines from the original bid. Considering that united reduced their flying by 60% I'd say that is pretty darn good. I wonder if being the cheapest regional in the industry for once served a purpose here...

fastneat 03-20-2020 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jungedrache (Post 3005726)
on the Ejet side we only lost like 25% of lines from the original bid. Considering that united reduced their flying by 60% I'd say that is pretty darn good. I wonder if being the cheapest regional in the industry for once served a purpose here...


Like I said, we’re good for business.

Sniper66 03-20-2020 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by fastneat (Post 3005840)
Like I said, we’re good for business.


what will it happen if United takes their frames (175s are paid off and not leased so no payments for them )
and park them at Roswell and comply with their scope Instead of having you flying them empty by using force Majour ? Have you thought about that?
your management is very aware what force majour is because they tried to use it at 2007


BTW what about if American uses their scope and reduce 25 percent of more than 64 seats aircraft as per scope with a nice notice after they park 385 narrow bodies ?

It’s an ugly world we live in these days


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