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06-24-2020, 02:57 PM

#11

pangolin

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Originally Posted by normalperson

what were your results from running the numbers? Where’s the line for holding a line in July?

As published. 55 hours to hold a line system wide. Results are published on bidding hub.

06-24-2020, 03:23 PM

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NovemberBravo

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Originally Posted by coodrough568

plan to vote no then, I think you already have though.

Yeah but I'm not asking for anything crazy. Another thing to watch is the other regionals I assume will be going into negotiations near the projected recovery so we might see the gap widen even more.

06-24-2020, 03:49 PM

#13

Avgeek7248

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo

Don’t you new guys still have bonuses rolling in? I mean you signed up to make $15 less an hr than everyone else. Our pay is closer to small turboprop charter companies than other regionals I was always surprised we still got pilots once Envoy and the others got new contracts . But negotiations are coming up its going to be interesting. I’m not voting yes for anything less than a $15 dollar pay hike which only puts us in the middle of the pack

quick hours and upgrade. Money wasn't an issue when I was flying over 90 hours a month. Now wishing I was earning that extra $15 an hour somewhere else.

06-24-2020, 04:01 PM

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propellere

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo

$15... that would be nice $51 an hour

06-24-2020, 07:28 PM

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NovemberBravo

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Yeah holy owned AA starts at 50 Republic skywest 46.

06-27-2020, 04:04 PM

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pangolin

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Originally Posted by pangolin

As published. 55 hours to hold a line system wide. Results are published on bidding hub.

Minimum long call awarded. At least in DFW. Other bases unknown. Not going to be a good month on reserve.

06-27-2020, 06:13 PM

#17

NovemberBravo

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Originally Posted by pangolin

Minimum long call awarded. At least in DFW. Other bases unknown. Not going to be a good month on reserve.

Same in IAD they rather you commute in spend money on hotels and get Covid. This way more of us drop trips or take leave. Full pay to last day, I cant afford reserve on 55 hrs

06-27-2020, 06:21 PM

#18

pangolin

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo

Same in IAD they rather you commute in spend money on hotels and get Covid. This way more of us drop trips or take leave. Full pay to last day, I cant afford reserve on 55 hrs

I want to think good of people - there must be another reason. Maybe not,
Maybe it is to get more to take the VLOA.

Last edited by pangolin; 06-27-2020 at 06:38 PM.

06-27-2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pangolin

I want to think good of people - there must be another reason. Maybe not,
Maybe it is to get more to take the VLOA.

You're probably right, that's my guess.

06-27-2020, 07:35 PM

#20

pangolin

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Originally Posted by mjpilot

You're probably right, that's my guess.

It’s flawed logic. In base - no impact. Commuters - big impact. So say you commute and since most bid CML (an assumption) then the most Jr will be the only ones used. One can compare available info and determine where they fall on the likelihood of a call and see if they should bother to come in. If you bid CMF then you’ll need to come in regardless. The logic is flawed because even if you have to buy a hotel EVERY DAY you still make more money with min credit than you do with a 20 hour VLOA even factoring in hotels and food.

The only thing this buys the company is ill will from the pilots. Nice play.