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Old 08-27-2022, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
No. no airline does this. It’s the ultimate bait and switch.
Aren’t you at Mesa? If so, you have it. It’s public information. Why don’t you share it with us?
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tsimmns927 View Post
Will all the new pay rates at regionals and hiring done by majors is now if ever the time do take out a loan for training and possibly do some accelerated training to get you where you want to be?
Minimum 3 years on average I’d say to get to airline mins if you started today. Who knows what the industry will look like in 2025
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize View Post
You children just don’t know how the world really works do you. You all claim knowledge you have absolutely no idea of reality. I’ve been at mesa longer than most if you have been alive and have seem all our ALPA contracts and dozens of others at other carriers be torn to shreds by unscrupulous management groups. You all think in absolutes. The only two absolutes in life are death and taxes.
You must be fun at parties. Mesa pilots get this new amazing pay rate and all you have been doing is spewing negative BS since yesterday.
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows View Post
You must be fun at parties. Mesa pilots get this new amazing pay rate and all you have been doing is spewing negative BS since yesterday.
And you must be fun at day care. Grow up and get a dose of reality.
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize View Post
And you must be fun at day care. Grow up and get a dose of reality.
Come on, we just won. It’s still a solid time for us to celebrate and share a positive vibe.
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows View Post
Minimum 3 years on average I’d say to get to airline mins if you started today. Who knows what the industry will look like in 2025
Thats about the time frame I’m thinking. I know most college 141 programs can be competed in about 2 years if you have all the basic credits needed with community college 141 programs being the same and then about a year of instructing.

Then I’ve also read about places that can get you an instrument rating in 14 days and a commercial rating in 14-21 days. Of course I imagine those aren’t the norm, but for someone trying to get there as fast as possible I imagine those might be options.
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize View Post
You children just don’t know how the world really works do you. You all claim knowledge you have absolutely no idea of reality. I’ve been at mesa longer than most if you have been alive and have seem all our ALPA contracts and dozens of others at other carriers be torn to shreds by unscrupulous management groups. You all think in absolutes. The only two absolutes in life are death and taxes.
you must be topped out on the pay-scale then right? You’re about to make over $200 an hour flying an RJ! You’ve never seen anything like this in your lifetime and you’re unhappy??? What were you expecting? Just curious.

i don’t think anyone thinks this is absolute, but it’s a time to celebrate a bit. Mesa will be gone most likely within the decade. might as well get well the gettins good!
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize View Post
Not unless there is specific language that stipulates that. This is a legally binding contract. You can’t just iply something. Until I see language that says the rates are permanent until new rates are negotiated then I’ll believe it…nothing more. Otherwise that payscale is just a chart full of numbers.

Where in the current contract is this “language” you seek? You are in left field buddy. Way out there.
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer View Post
Except you can't fly 100 hours a month for 12 months. That would exceed 1000/yr limitation

You can make 100 hours a month for 10 months though. Which is 100k. And be sure to minus taxes from all that as well. And even that would be no-lifing it

Have you ever worked at Mesa? I talk to people all the time who credit well north of 150 hrs a month. How could an actual 121 pilot not understand the difference in credit vs block?
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize View Post
You children just don’t know how the world really works do you. You all claim knowledge you have absolutely no idea of reality. I’ve been at mesa longer than most if you have been alive and have seem all our ALPA contracts and dozens of others at other carriers be torn to shreds by unscrupulous management groups. You all think in absolutes. The only two absolutes in life are death and taxes.
I don’t think it’s possible to reach you at all. For those now considering staying now or coming - rest assured there’s no snap back on rates.
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