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MrIncredible 08-21-2023 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3685659)
For right now United needs Mesa to improve their reliability and keep the 70/76 seat rj’s moving. As long as United needs Mesa, they will pump money into them and they’ll be around. Dropping carriers that only operate 50 seat jets that are being phased out isn’t the problem that allowing a major disruption to the dual class bigger rj’s would be. A more realistic merger would be between CommutAir and Mesa. They could consolidate crews to fullly staff the 175’s while retiring the 145’s.

One thing is for sure. “United next” has the regional feed shrinking. Phasing out the single class 50 seaters and being replaced with 175s. Even then shirking the 175 flying and replacing it with maineline flying. It’s already being done now as we speak. 737 flying routes that use to be operated by regional jets.

Hedley 08-21-2023 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3685782)
One thing is for sure. “United next” has the regional feed shrinking. Phasing out the single class 50 seaters and being replaced with 175s. Even then shirking the 175 flying and replacing it with maineline flying. It’s already being done now as we speak. 737 flying routes that use to be operated by regional jets.

United Next isn’t going to go as originally planned. On the UAL side, plans are being slowed by delayed aircraft deliveries and hundreds of unfilled captain vacancies. On the UAX side, the 50 seaters are going to eventually be phased out and all flying will be done with the current allotment of 70/76 seaters (UAX will therefore be smaller). I don’t think there are any plans to shrink the 70/76 seat flying, it’s that a lack of captains has made staffing them impossible for the moment.

ChronicFatigue 08-22-2023 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bricky (Post 3684753)
Right, and I'm not employed by Mesa

All I can tell you Billy and qrh is that we're (Republic) flying into places we didn't before in the southwest and northeast and I'm told they were previously flown by competitors or that were flying current airports more often.

I texted a friend at Skywest who said the same thing about picking up a few new routes.


I'd love to know these places we are flying into that are new on the United side because I'm not seeing it in the bid packet.

Bricky 08-22-2023 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by ChronicFatigue (Post 3686566)
I'd love to know these places we are flying into that are new on the United side because I'm not seeing it in the bid packet.

I was told we're going back to kiad and some other northeast cities gj was flying into and some south Midwest states.

pangolin 08-22-2023 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by killbilly (Post 3684525)
Curious about "routes other regionals couldn't handle."

Like what?

That statement was pretty much a lie. As is the 50/50 and that attrition is under control. So don’t waste your time.

What we have seen is upgauging. So while this ignorant poster thinks we are flying routes the 145 can’t fly, in reality large RJs are flying the routes for scale and mainline us flying what large RJS were flying.

pangolin 08-22-2023 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3685782)
One thing is for sure. “United next” has the regional feed shrinking. Phasing out the single class 50 seaters and being replaced with 175s. Even then shirking the 175 flying and replacing it with maineline flying. It’s already being done now as we speak. 737 flying routes that use to be operated by regional jets.

This is the truth right here.

killbilly 08-23-2023 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3686745)
That statement was pretty much a lie. As is the 50/50 and that attrition is under control. So don’t waste your time.

What we have seen is upgauging. So while this ignorant poster thinks we are flying routes the 145 can’t fly, in reality large RJs are flying the routes for scale and mainline us flying what large RJS were flying.

Yeah, I kinda figured that was the case, which is why I called out that specific...thing. :)

ChronicFatigue 08-23-2023 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Bricky (Post 3686737)
I was told we're going back to kiad and some other northeast cities gj was flying into and some south Midwest states.

We've always been in KIAD. What are these northeast cities and south Midwest states that we are going to now that are new?

Bricky 08-23-2023 08:32 AM

I spoke to actual line pilots in person that told me there thoughts. They specifically said were returning to kiad. That is the only airport I remember being mentioned. I'll stick with what they said.

killbilly 08-23-2023 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Bricky (Post 3686953)
I spoke to actual line pilots in person that told me there thoughts. They specifically said were returning to kiad. That is the only airport I remember being mentioned. I'll stick with what they said.

You're. Already. There.

EDIT: Also, line pilots (speaking as one) are the worst for rumors. Absolute worst.

EDIT2: Except maybe regional FAs.


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