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Old 08-23-2023 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by killbilly
EDIT: Also, line pilots (speaking as one) are the worst for rumors. Absolute worst.
It's about the routes they are flying

Edit - it's better to rely on faceless folks on the net? lol
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Old 08-23-2023 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bricky
It's about the routes they are flying

Edit - it's better to rely on faceless folks on the net? lol
Given that they're often the same people you make a point there.
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Old 08-23-2023 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bricky
It's about the routes they are flying

Edit - it's better to rely on faceless folks on the net? lol
Are you not a line pilot? Can you just not go look at the UA pairings for the last 3 months and see that there's nowhere really new that we are flying on the UA side?
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Old 08-23-2023 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ChronicFatigue
Are you not a line pilot? Can you just not go look at the UA pairings for the last 3 months and see that there's nowhere really new that we are flying on the UA side?
Truth. Nothing new.
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Old 08-25-2023 | 06:37 PM
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Supposedly there is a big announcement being made next month. Some rumors on what it can be is:

Mesa shutting down

Mesa merging with commute air

United buys Mesa

Mesa selling all CRJs in one go, and having only an all ejet fleet

Aviate removing Mesa, and United making Mesa being the only regional where there will be a 100% guarantee flow to United in order by seniority number

Can be one, none, or a combination of these.
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Old 08-26-2023 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Supposedly there is a big announcement being made next month. Some rumors on what it can be is:

Mesa shutting down
If there are pilots and ERJ's on property, why do that? If MAG is in the red, seems like UA would infuse some cash to keep ERJ's flying since they can't replace the 50 seaters that are aging out (no new 50's, and scoped out ERJs).

Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Mesa merging with commute air
Something like that could happen.

Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
United buys Mesa
I suppose they could. Or just provide a cash infusion. They don't seem to be interested in the WO business model like AA.

Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Mesa selling all CRJs in one go, and having only an all ejet fleet
Single fleet is more economical

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Aviate removing Mesa, and United making Mesa being the only regional where there will be a 100% guarantee flow to United in order by seniority number
Why do that for mesa but not the others?
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Old 08-26-2023 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Supposedly there is a big announcement being made next month. Some rumors on what it can be is:

Mesa shutting down

Mesa merging with commute air

United buys Mesa

Mesa selling all CRJs in one go, and having only an all ejet fleet

Aviate removing Mesa, and United making Mesa being the only regional where there will be a 100% guarantee flow to United in order by seniority number

Can be one, none, or a combination of these.
UA buying Mesa can’t happen, it’s against the FA contract.

A flow would have to be agreed by the UA pilots and none of us want that.
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Old 08-26-2023 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Supposedly there is a big announcement being made next month. Some rumors on what it can be is:

Mesa shutting down

Mesa merging with commute air

United buys Mesa

Mesa selling all CRJs in one go, and having only an all ejet fleet

Aviate removing Mesa, and United making Mesa being the only regional where there will be a 100% guarantee flow to United in order by seniority number

Can be one, none, or a combination of these.
United buying Mesa will not happen. The CRJs are going away and that will happen. No flow is coming only Aviate.
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Old 08-26-2023 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TubStackersOfA
Mesa merging with commute air
I don't see any business incentive to merge when you could whipsaw the two against each other. CommuteAir has a near-operational 170 training program. Mesa and CommuteAir management get pulled into a conference with SK and get asked who can fly the 170 for cheaper. If it's Mesa, CommuteAir goes out of business, the 145 dies, and their pilots get a "preferential interview" at Mesa. If it's CommuteAir, the 145 lives on and the 170s at Mesa move over to CommuteAir and Mesa's pilots get to reinterview. Pilots from the losing side start over at year one pay and United saves the administrative costs from orchestrating a merger by letting one management team survive while the other one goes to bankruptcy court. In the meantime, mainline A319s and 737s pick up the slack for the year or two it takes to get the surviving regional back. Not what I want, but just my two cents.
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Old 08-26-2023 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AerChungus
I don't see any business incentive to merge when you could whipsaw the two against each other. CommuteAir has a near-operational 170 training program. Mesa and CommuteAir management get pulled into a conference with SK and get asked who can fly the 170 for cheaper. If it's Mesa, CommuteAir goes out of business, the 145 dies, and their pilots get a "preferential interview" at Mesa. If it's CommuteAir, the 145 lives on and the 170s at Mesa move over to CommuteAir and Mesa's pilots get to reinterview. Pilots from the losing side start over at year one pay and United saves the administrative costs from orchestrating a merger by letting one management team survive while the other one goes to bankruptcy court. In the meantime, mainline A319s and 737s pick up the slack for the year or two it takes to get the surviving regional back. Not what I want, but just my two cents.
Highly unlikely. In this pilot market most would go to a LCC or another regional thats most convenient for them. Especially with prior 121 most could get a fat DEC sign on bonus.

The pilots of Mesa and Commute wont staff each others airplanes. Those days are gone (for now).
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