haha, I will bookmark this page so I can come back to this thread in about a month or so ;)

I think UAL has a lot of options for the DEN flying however, I think colgan is the most likely contender based on my friends over at CJC. Horizon is in an excellent position to provide the service and bring some furloughed pilots back to the industry:D yet, we all know how politics are. As for the colgan and mesa are the bottom feeders, or what ever you may call them remark. Anything thats not a legacy is a regional in retrospect so lets just help each other out and leave the cattyness to highschool cheerleaders:rolleyes:.

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Food for Thought -- Lynx has 9 or 10 more options on Q-400's for next year.

Option 1: BB picks up the Q-400 flying and now has a fleet of 21 Q-400's operating out of DEN to assist both F9 and UAL to create a common code share to battle Southwest. The base is large enough to be efficient and he has an additional revenue stream. BB has 100 RAH guys on furlough which would provide just the right of amount of pilots for the expanded operation. Everyone at RAH is back to work and the overall integration with goes a little smoother.

Option 2: Skywest make a deal to buy Lynx from BB which the proceeds contribute to the F9 purchase. Interestly the combined UAL RFP flying and the Lynx operation is exactly the 21 airframes Skywest wants to make the deal workable). This helps heal the wounds of them being thrown out of Midwest and provides RAH with a significant portion of the Frontier purchase -- maybe 15% to 20%. BB stays out of the prop business and Skywest does not have to furlough. It could be another carrier, but who ever gets the UAL flying will want to buy Lynx from RAH from an economies of scale standpoint.

When the cigar smokes clears, there was a back room deal that was put together months ago and it will all make sense. Hopefully, this flying remains with MESA for now for the sake of their pilots. If not, conspiracy theories will abound.

Actually Lynx has only two options left. The first option was delivered this week and the second is due for delivery Jan 10. The next six options were not taken and we now have two remaining. If the two remaining are taken we will end up with 14 total planes. Most companies with current orders are passing on them. A current customer could probably negotiate for some of those spots if they wanted to.

We are waiting for an announcement from Colgan in September regarding a bunch of new flying, wonder if it could be some of this with United.

Option 3: Colgan picks up the UAL flying cause they are the bottom feeders and are the worst regional in the world! Which would make all the non bottom feeders and better regionals unhappy! Thats how things work, right? LOL, No one knows anything till it happens. Juice, I sure you have something to say on this. :D

That is not true. Mesa is the worst. I have never had a weird feeling in my stomach about DH'ing on an airline other than Mesa out of IAD. The planes genuinely look (and sound) like they are poorly maintained. Add that to the way they threat their crewmembers; it can't be good.

Any carrier that would force its pilots to sleep on the airplane during overnight extended ground time tells me all I need to know about that carrier. Of course, when the media highlighted this, Mesa then apparently gave all three crewmembers ONE room (whcih changes nothing and says something even MORE), then what else can you say. I can say firmly that this would NEVER be tolerated here at Eagle, as the fatigue rate would cripple the airline.

When I see a carrier do this (and hear other disturbing stories from that carriers pilots), it makes me wonder where they are skimping elsewhere ?

There is a fairly wide difference in regionals. Virtually ALL regionals are not and will never have the benefits and QWL of the better majors, but some can indeed be decent with seniroity to stay above most of the hassles. At the very least the regional carriers with the more ethically bankrupt management teams should be forced up to the better regionals conditions and hopefully improvements across the board can occur from there.

Let me know how that one works out..

Yep...thought I was the only one......