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benairguitar23 08-31-2009 11:12 AM
Originally Posted by mosquito (Post 669507)
I heard it from Chuck Colgan himself, when he called me for an interview. Colgan has 10 Q400's coming in 2010 and 10 more for 2011. The 2010's are for ual an the 2011's are for cal. He was trying to sell me the growth Colgan was getting in the future. But I turned it down because I got another job offer from a cargo company with better pay.
Was your interview before or after the accident because as was stated previously why would UAL want more even more bad press than they already have???

rickair7777 08-31-2009 12:17 PM
Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 670177)
I'm curious Rick, your profile says you fly a crj. What did you make you're first year flying the crj or which ever aircraft you were flying year one at your airline? I am not picking a fight, I was just curious where that was.
Mesa, which was a mistake. But I took the job not not to "feed my family" but to get a base close to home. I had the time to get a job at any regional, I just didn't know they was much difference between them. My bad, and it cost me some valuable seniority to find out.

I now work for a regional which pays me $40-50K as an FO (depending on how much I work or don't work). The first year was of course much lower but that is the case anywhere unfortunately.

But a D8 FO at mesa is stuck at $25K forever...the other guy was kidding himself.

mking84 08-31-2009 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by CrippleHawk (Post 669619)
I don't think UAL wants anymore 50 seaters jets (Unless Xjet is willing to fly a prop or a 70 seater)
I love how you guys know what UAL wants...

Maybe UAL wants better 50 seat feed. There will always be a 50 seat market (esp at CAL), it just is changing.

flymeswa 08-31-2009 02:28 PM
Yeah I have a feeling this might go to the least expected carrier. Everyone is always saying the same players, Skywest, Sh1taqua, Mesa...but I think this is going to be the beginning of a huge long deserving change for a different carrier. :D

rickair7777 08-31-2009 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by flymeswa (Post 670939)
Yeah I have a feeling this might go to the least expected carrier. Everyone is always saying the same players, Skywest, Sh1taqua, Mesa...but I think this is going to be the beginning of a huge long deserving change for a different carrier. :D
Which carrier might that be?

Why are they more deserving than those who have already been working for the UA brand?

mking84 08-31-2009 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 670941)
Which carrier might that be?

Why are they more deserving than those who have already been working for the UA brand?
There is nothing deserving about the UA brand.....Rickair you dissappoint me.

:)

CrippleHawk 08-31-2009 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 670929)
I love how you guys know what UAL wants...

Maybe UAL wants better 50 seat feed. There will always be a 50 seat market (esp at CAL), it just is changing.


After the 2008 fuel crisis. The 50 seat market is now basically dead market. Nobody wants them here anymore. (Also Dispatching them at one point they are a very inefficient when it comes to Fuel (The CRJ-200LR) especially when you have to give them holding/alternate or extra fuel for weather.


The CRJ-700ER is a much better A/C when it comes to fuel efficiency


UAL does not want 50 seaters anymore because they are losing money on them since.

mking84 08-31-2009 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by CrippleHawk (Post 670965)
After the 2008 fuel crisis. The 50 seat market is now basically dead market. Nobody wants them here anymore. (Also Dispatching them at one point they are a very inefficient when it comes to Fuel (The CRJ-200LR) especially when you have to give them holding/alternate or extra fuel for weather.


The CRJ-700ER is a much better A/C when it comes to fuel efficiency


UAL does not want 50 seaters anymore because they are losing money on them since.
Do you have an MBA in economics? The 50 seat does not lose money every time it takes off. bigger is NOT always better. XJT has proven the 50 seat can be a very profitable. Are you telling me that the 70 seat makes money on every flight?

You are very misguided if you think so. 50 seats will exist at every carrier until they COMPLETELY give up scope, and then, it's game over.

Whether UAL wants them or not, they are stuck with them.

Jetlinker 08-31-2009 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by CrippleHawk (Post 670965)
After the 2008 fuel crisis. The 50 seat market is now basically dead market. Nobody wants them here anymore. (Also Dispatching them at one point they are a very inefficient when it comes to Fuel (The CRJ-200LR) especially when you have to give them holding/alternate or extra fuel for weather.


The CRJ-700ER is a much better A/C when it comes to fuel efficiency


UAL does not want 50 seaters anymore because they are losing money on them since.
Two points :

The CRJ-700 is not more fuel efficient when you have 50 out of 70 seats occupied.

The EMB-145LR and especially XR, is more efficient than any CRJ200.

DryMotorBoatin 08-31-2009 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 670988)
Do you have an MBA in economics? .
MBA...Masters in Business Administration. You can't have an MBA in economics. Thats like having an ATP with a garbage truck type rating.


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