Mesa loses United flying
11-07-2009 | 05:11 AM
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I dont think anything is official yet. The extension was not granted for those aircraft but that just means that United felt that they could renegotiate better rates and a better contract. There has been a bidding war going on between xjt, tsa, skywest, and mesa for this contract. Your contract wasn't renewed but there could still be a "new" mesa contract with cheaper rates but with the same old airplanes. Same thing could very well go for the Dash's as well.
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you never know. The ASA 13 aircraft thing and the TSA recalls are not good signs for mesa to continue this flying.
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you never know. The ASA 13 aircraft thing and the TSA recalls are not good signs for mesa to continue this flying.
It's official
11-07-2009 | 07:55 AM
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I dont think you quite understand my post. Sure it is official that mesa's current contract was not renewed but United could very well just sign a brand new contract with mesa starting May 1, 2010 with the same aircraft. There is nothing stopping them from doing so.
11-07-2009 | 07:57 AM
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Mesa Air Group Fleet
Mesa Airlines Certificate Fleet (DBA; GO!, MESA AIRLINES, UNITED EXPRESS, US AIRWAYS EXPRESS)
38 CL-600-2D24
20 CL-600-2C10 (10 on Option)
46 CL-600-2B19
16 DHC-8-202
Freedom Airlines Certificate Fleet (DBA; DELTA CONNECTION)
34 EMB-145LR
38 CL-600-2D24
20 CL-600-2C10 (10 on Option)
46 CL-600-2B19
16 DHC-8-202
Freedom Airlines Certificate Fleet (DBA; DELTA CONNECTION)
34 EMB-145LR
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11-07-2009 | 08:04 AM
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You are correct, that could happen.
11-07-2009 | 12:02 PM
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We have to get out of the 50 seat CRJ 200 market. It's a waste and there's no sense prolonging the pain. We'll have to figure out a way to get out of all of this intact, that is the challenge right now. If we do, we'll be in good shape.
Again, look at the numbers: 56 CRJ 200s @ Mesa, 250 CRJ 200s @ SkyWest.
It's going to suck for just about anyone who has a sizeable number of CRJ 200s right now. One can either deal with that problem head-on, or you can move it to the back-burner to deal with later. In a way, United did us a favor.
Again, look at the numbers: 56 CRJ 200s @ Mesa, 250 CRJ 200s @ SkyWest.
It's going to suck for just about anyone who has a sizeable number of CRJ 200s right now. One can either deal with that problem head-on, or you can move it to the back-burner to deal with later. In a way, United did us a favor.
11-07-2009 | 12:18 PM
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It will be interesting to see how all this turn out.
11-07-2009 | 12:33 PM
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Majors' scope precludes almost any future growth in the 70/90 market, even as 1 for 1 replacements for 50's. Therefore, the Regionals will continue to fly 50 seaters as a staple of feed into the future. American is the only one I can think of recently that is allowing more 70 seaters. Not sure what United's cap is, but I believe Delta is at the limit and I don't think Continental allows any 70 seaters. So, are we saying that if 200's need to, or are going to, disappear, then who or what will feed the hubs?
11-07-2009 | 12:34 PM
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