Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Mesa Airlines
Mesa Air Group Chapter 11 Info >

Mesa Air Group Chapter 11 Info

Search

Notices
Mesa Airlines Regional Airline

Mesa Air Group Chapter 11 Info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-16-2010 | 05:37 AM
  #551  
H46Bubba's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
From: NOYDB
Default

Originally Posted by winglet
ToiletDuck,

Delta already "dropped" MAG by terminating their ERJ contract in March 2008 and their CRJ-900 contract in August 2008.

Mesa brought civil action in the Georgia District Court concerning the ERJ's and won an injunction. This is the "ERJ Litigation" (Mesa Airlines, Inc. and Freedom Airlines, Inc. vs. Delta Airlines Inc. Civil Action No. 1:08-CV-1334-CC). Delta appealed in the Georgia Court of Appeals and lost the appeal.

MAG has since submitted a motion to assume the contract in the New York Bankruptcy Court and, against Delta's hopes, the case has subsequently been transferred from the Georgia District Court to the New York Bankruptcy Court. The court date is currently scheduled for July 12th, 2010. The result is that Delta is now bound by a court injunction to honor their executory contract until either Mesa assumes the contract in reorganization or the contract expires.

There are other cases pending in the Georgia District Court:

"MFN Litigation" (Delta Airlines, Inc. vs. Mesa Airlines, Inc. and Freedom Airlines, Inc. Civil Action No. 1:08-CV-1334-CC)

The "MFN Litigation" concerns the "Most Favored Nation" provision of the contract. MFN provisions effectively guarantee that sub-contractors don't out price the "lowest bidder". Delta claims that MAG is charging $1.5 million a month more than Pinnacle Airlines and that the MFN provision guaranteed that MAG would be the lowest cost Delta Connection operator. MAG in turn claims; Delta hasn't been properly utilizing their aircraft on a "full-time basis"; Delta refuses to engage in the annual rate setting procedures; attorneys' fees; costs; and "other damages". This case is currently scheduled in the Georgia District Court for April 20th, 2010.

MAG also commenced an action in the Georgia District Court concerning the cancellation of the Delta CRJ-900 agreement (These were the 14 NexGen CRJ-900's owned by Delta to be operated by MAG. MAG only flew seven of them from Nov. 2007 to Aug. 2008). The "Delta CRJ Litigation" seeks damages for lost profits and training costs. Delta, of course, filed a counterclaim for "failure to meet contract conditions".

Yet another action exists in the Arizona District Court:

This case, the "Engine Litigation", was filed by MAG seeking the return of seven engines that Delta took posession of. Delta agreed to return the engines but then filed a mechanics lien and a counterclaim to foreclose on the liens. The Court ruled that Delta had forfeited its claims and Delta appealed. The appeals case is pending.

These cases, especially the "ERJ and MFN litigation", are key to the reorganization of MAG and were the primary reasons for the timing of the bankruptcy filing. Until these cases are concluded, or a settlement is reached, MAG's bankruptcy case will effectively be in limbo.

winglet
Winglet, isn't it the other way around? ERJ litigaton stays in GA with date set for April 20th, and the MFN was transfered to BK court in NY with a date set for July 12? That's how I read it.
Reply
Old 03-16-2010 | 05:58 AM
  #552  
winglet's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 467
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by H46Bubba
Winglet, isn't it the other way around? ERJ litigaton stays in GA with date set for April 20th, and the MFN was transfered to BK court in NY with a date set for July 12? That's how I read it.
H46Bubba,

Good catch! You are absolutely correct. Sorry, I got in a hurry with editing. I've corrected my post.

winglet

Last edited by winglet; 03-16-2010 at 06:35 AM.
Reply
Old 03-16-2010 | 09:51 AM
  #553  
flycrj200's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,454
Likes: 0
From: A320 FO
Default

Originally Posted by winglet
H46Bubba,

Good catch! You are absolutely correct. Sorry, I got in a hurry with editing. I've corrected my post.

winglet
Winglet:

Thank you for all the information you provide and for keeping this thread on track
Reply
Old 03-16-2010 | 10:30 AM
  #554  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 378
Likes: 0
From: Skeptical
Default

Any word on further furloughs?

I know the UAL Dash8 flying is coming to a close soon and can only assume that's going to lead to more guys on the street.

Best of luck to all.
Reply
Old 03-16-2010 | 01:27 PM
  #555  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
From: ERJ CA
Default

Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Any word on further furloughs?

I know the UAL Dash8 flying is coming to a close soon and can only assume that's going to lead to more guys on the street.

Best of luck to all.
I think 1000 pilots is the target number and we currently have about 1075 on the seniority list.
Reply
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:28 AM
  #556  
winglet's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 467
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Releasemaster
Winglet,

When will Mesa have to disclose the books to the court? If the 1110c hearing concluded this past wouldn't disclosure have to come this week?
Releasemaster,

Yesterday (March 16th) MAG presented a motion to extend the time to disclose the books. They are asking for March 26th, 2010 due to the number of creditors and "complexities" of the case.

The MOR should also be coming out at about the same time.

winglet

Last edited by winglet; 03-17-2010 at 07:04 AM.
Reply
Old 03-17-2010 | 08:37 AM
  #557  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Any word on further furloughs?

I know the UAL Dash8 flying is coming to a close soon and can only assume that's going to lead to more guys on the street.

Best of luck to all.
I have heard the rumor that the June furlough was just postponed. That would mean that the 20 or so on April 1st and the 65 on May 1st are still going to happen but that would bring us down to the projected 1000 total pilots.
Reply
Old 03-17-2010 | 09:54 AM
  #558  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
From: ERJ CA
Default

Originally Posted by DHC8DRV
I have heard the rumor that the June furlough was just postponed. That would mean that the 20 or so on April 1st and the 65 on May 1st are still going to happen but that would bring us down to the projected 1000 total pilots.
Well unless I received my furlough notice while I've been gone on this trip, I don't think any furloughs are going to happen on April 1st, since I'm practically at the bottom of the list.
Reply
Old 03-18-2010 | 10:59 AM
  #559  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default

Just received my furlough notice for April 1.
Reply
Old 03-18-2010 | 12:26 PM
  #560  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
From: Ask scheduling
Default

Originally Posted by airborne840
Just received my furlough notice for April 1.
Good luck guys.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Guard Dude
Delta
201736
04-06-2022 06:59 AM
winglet
Regional
47
05-15-2016 09:45 PM
Past V1
Mesa Airlines
1
01-06-2010 09:09 AM
AirbornPegasus
Regional
14
04-08-2009 07:17 PM
vagabond
Major
33
02-26-2009 05:44 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices