What? I think you meant UAL owns 30. We currently fly the 30 and are now acquiring 15 more with plans to purchase them outright.
Total being 45 Ejets operated for the UAX codeshare. Unfortunately you didn't clarify a thing. Lol

You just compared yourself to cockroaches, nice. American stated it was wanting to bring flying in house, and is already sending its 175s to envoy. Where do you figure you'll be flying some for American? Mesa is already doing a poor job of flying their stuff on the crj side as it is. If anything Mesa will lose its American flying over time and go to just United work.

Those are called lenders not creditors

American owes a good percentage of Mesa
I think 20 percent ownership coming out of BK

Think think and think again

LMFAO

I don't care who you are. That's pretty funny!

Buzz off a-hole

Reading this thread is depressing. One group of regional pilots hating on another group. Over and over again we have this back and forth BS. Fighting for scraps while big brother and sister laugh all the way to the bank.

Wow, just wow.

Yeah the back-and-forth, name calling and bashing on fellow airline pilot colligues is pretty pathetic.

Arguing about who's regional airline is better is like arguing who's fresh dump smells worse. Give me a break guys.......were all in the same regional crap boat.

I guess it just goes to show the level of immaturity of the current generation of "professional" pilots. Pretty sad.

West Side Gangsta!

"Mine is bigger than yours!" Seems to be the biggest commonality on this board.

DH

Me? Thanks....I guess. I'm slow so sorry if I don't get the reference.

My post is simply to explain my position that I think this sibling rivalry in the regionals is useless. People (for the most part) pick their regional because it's convenient to commute to, and would leave at the first hint of being hired at a major. This regional pride/bashing trend is comical. Get in, get out, move on.

Mesa Airlines to operate 15 more 175s
 

Regional pilots hate on other regional pilots because of the whipsaw game. Some folks get lucky and get a quick upgrade, but it always comes at the expense of a 7-8 year FO, who had bad luck and their upgrade "stolen". I don't think it's right to act immature, but that's where the hostility originates. And, while not directly the fault of the quick upgrading pilot, it's somewhat justified.

On the subject of 175's for AA, I seriously doubt it. I'm at Envoy and we are really fat on pilots. I'm looking at the DFW reserve list and more that 40 FO's are getting paid to sit at home today. The top half of the list has barely worked the last couple months. They could award us 20 more airplanes tomorrow and we'd have no problem staffing everything, even if we don't end up transferring any thing away. They are spending lots of $$ to get the 175 program up and running here, so they'd put us to work before betting on another airline.

Also, AA is nearly scoped out, so there's that.


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Also from Training Dept they want to bring all the aa E 175s to envoy, Compass E175, will probably come back to envoy once the contract expires..so true they are spending lots of $$ on the 175 program..

You just described the majority of every pilot group among the regionals. Unfortunately there at least a few bad apples at every carrier who feel the need to make below the belt comments in a failed attempt to make themselves appear elite or superior to their colleagues. I've noticed that Mesa and PSA threads seem to generate the most of that kind of behavior here on APC.

May I ask who's training department?

I was told that the training dept has essentially been given a blank check (exaggeration of course) to do whatever it needs to get the E175 on line and top knotch. While it's all obviously up to Parker and Co. as to where the contracted out 175's end up, envoy is making plans to take on much much more then the initial 40 that start arriving next month.

Are we going to to be flying into ORD next month according to that email?

Huh?
(Filler)

"November 1, 2015 we will begin flying into ORD as an outstation again, except this time we will be utilizing the "Aircraft Parking Information System" (APIS)."

Yes but doesn't specify CR7 or E75.

Didn't get the email, but upon further research looks like IAD CRJ start up the Sunday morning turn service again.

Lol compass has the cheapest pilot group out there (majority of pilots have been at the company less than 2 years). Parker has diversified his feed hoping to weather a storm. So why would envoy get those planes? Just because a training department wants to do anything outside of train doesn't mean it will happen. The training department isn't responsible for fleet management or even staffing the airline.

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Maybe to clarify this more (or clear as mud)....United earlier this year put out a release that come Spring of 2016 they would hand over 10 Ejets to a regional. And earlier posts on this message board said we were receiving jets from Republic. Also happens that Mesa is purchasing these jets, just like Republic would have. So, maybe these aren't the United bought ones and come next spring there could be another 10-15 from United.

If United MEC accepts a 2 year extension and the pilots ratify it that is negotiate it now with 45 days expiration and that is Nov 20th you may see more 175 s coming but if they don't get a TA on the extension , United is capped to 255 70/76 aircraft max and no more of 153 76 seaters ...that's Max

United is offering pay increases and 100-125 aircraft order with 100 seats , furlough longevity back and wants relief on duty extension for ultra long flights since FAR 117 has a lot of restrictions and pilots are not willing to extend their duty time


As of 10/10/15 UAL has flying

41 EMB 170
119 CR7
And how many so far 175 not to exceed 95
Unless they remove 70 seaters or add narrow body at mainline
Do the math what you have flying , confirm order to fly and there is your numbers and opportunities


Don't be fool with the 25 A319s from China and 17 Airbuses coming from Spirit to increase the 175 s that's not complying with the contract and they don't count for scope relief .... Those are used and the contract specific calls for NEW NBs

Holy cow! My grammar isn't top grade by any means, but this is the worst written article in all of time.

It is Jonathan , I am Mexican but don't tell Trump.

However giving false expectatios to kids for quick upgrade will not fly anymore !!! The TA you offered sucked and I am glad it was shut down !!!! No more dues for H-----
More stickers on the way ?

Mesa is taking the delivery spots for the 10 United announced earlier this year. Change of plan, not additional airframes.

Congratulations. But they're not #1 as you claim. Don't you hate it when the facts get in the way of the truth?

"The training department isn't responsible for fleet management or even staffing the airline".
Your correct the parent company is, aag basically runs envoy and the other WO.. The training dept, gets their marching orders from big daddy..Parker doesn't like to waste $$..

Like I said, 30+15 = 45.
You wholy owns crack me up, truth be told, you are a financial tool to the mainline. If mainline needs to show a financial loss, they throw money at you and life is good. When they need to show strong earnings to stock holders, you eat ****. Enjoy that roller coaster. One day they say you are getting tons of e-jets, and ramping up to take over the world, the next day they shelve it and not give a crap. Small potatoes in the big picture

You seriously think that's funny?

You are tool used to whipsaw other pilots groups. You must be so proud.

Because Compass has the worst YTD Completion Factor, worst D+0, and worst A+14 for all of the 10 carriers flying under American Eagle.

Would like to see the data on that. Sept is a small subset but compass exceed every single number American gave them for completion factor d0 and a14


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Funny? It is reality, and you are an idiot for getting mad about it, knowing full well you are employed in a job market predicated on undercutting the next guy for a contract.

Everyone knows that performance is just a carrot. If regionals were really not meeting performance goals, they'd be paying penalties. If anything, AA and company likes it when their regionals meet contractual goals but not when they exceed performance goals so they don't have to pay out bonuses. As long as too many people aren't missing connections, all they really care about is cost.

Parker is on record as saying there are four or five to many regionals flying for American.

Those 175s you are flying were supposed to go to envoy but the lack of a signed pilot contract forced them to find another home for them for the time being. There is a contract in place now.

You do the math.

Parker is also on record as saying there is a need to diversify the feed and hire independent regionals to compete with the other two legacy airlines. Go ahead and add that to the equation.

And they did that.

He always talks about American and its relationship with American Eagle and how it was wrong to have only one regional affiliate and have them such an integral part of mainline.

His stated vision is to have five or six regionals that operate as their own companies (even the WO).

There are ten now.

No matter what you think of Parker what he and Isom say in public has been panning out.

And yet Parker willingly brought TSA, XJT, and Compass into the fold. There is what he says and what he's been doing.