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Mesa Airlines to operate 15 more 175s
Mesa Airlines Announces Agreement
to Expand its United Express Fleet with 15 New E175 Aircraft PHOENIX, Oct. 6, 2015 – Mesa Airlines, Inc. today announced an agreement with United Airlines to add 15 Embraer 175 aircraft to Mesa’s United Express fleet. “We are very pleased to expand our relationship with United with the addition of these 15 new Embraer E175 jets,” said Chairman and CEO Jonathan Ornstein. “Mesa has proven itself as a quality operator of this aircraft type in terms of customer satisfaction and is competitive in terms of cost efficiency. The combination of these two attributes has made Mesa the fastest growing airline in the world over the last three years and will continue to fuel our growth into the future.” Paul Foley, Executive Vice President and COO added, “Besides the obvious benefit of expansion to Mesa, the addition of new aircraft greatly enhances advancement opportunities for our people, our pilots and other operational employees in particular. The addition of these aircraft will create a minimum of 75 new captain upgrade positions that significantly increase pay, 150 newly-hired first officers, 150 new flight attendant positions and over 100 additional mechanics, supervisors , dispatchers, planning and support staff". And the quick upgrade train continues full speed....... |
So our pilot group annihilated the TA and we still got more airplanes. This should put the "United is pulling those birds because Mesa's operational performance sucks" rumors to rest.
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Originally Posted by tinman1
(Post 1986530)
So our pilot group annihilated the TA and we still got more airplanes. This should put the "United is pulling those birds because Mesa's operational performance sucks" rumors to rest.
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#1 - JO has no incentive to give us a better contract. At this point, as long as they are adding new aircraft and attracting new employees, he doesn't even have to offer new hire bonuses. Take the emotion out of it. If you were in a management position, you would agree that there is no reason to concede anything with us, the pilot group. It would be nice if they did, but they don't have to, and they wont until growth stops. When people stop coming, then maybe there will be some concessions on the side of management. Its not personal, its how business is done in a capitalist society.
#2 - Any ideas on when delivery's start? |
December
Filler |
These going to IAH?
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Mesa Airlines to operate 15 more 175s
As the company grows, the fixed costs get spread thinner than before thus the company makes more money. Regardless, JO is a happy guy.
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Isn't Mesa doing the same thing that RAH was doing? Signing razor thin CPA's to gain as much flying as possible? Lol we all know how that one ends.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 1986610)
Isn't Mesa doing the same thing that RAH was doing? Signing razor thin CPA's to gain as much flying as possible? Lol we all know how that one ends.
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Did this really warrant another thread?
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A quick upgrade for the 75 guys already on property, who will upgrade as a result of these jets. But for anyone not on property yet, it's gonna be $22/hr, buy your own iPad, and tell your spouse to get a real job to provide health insurance for a long time. I don't see how this doesn't end in a Republic-like situation in less than 2 years.
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Originally Posted by Shiner
(Post 1986685)
A quick upgrade for the 75 guys already on property, who will upgrade as a result of these jets. But for anyone not on property yet, it's gonna be $22/hr, buy your own iPad, and tell your spouse to get a real job to provide health insurance for a long time. I don't see how this doesn't end in a Republic-like situation in less than 2 years.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 1986708)
It will, just grab the popcorn and enjoy the show.
DH |
Originally Posted by Dhood84
(Post 1986715)
Who would win in a deathmatch? JO vs. BB?
DH |
Originally Posted by Shiner
(Post 1986685)
I don't see how this doesn't end in a Republic-like situation in less than 2 years.
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Can't find anything that says when these deliveries will be. But if its anything like SkyWest, these new planes won't be around until late 2016, early 2017. A lot can happen in one year.
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Originally Posted by NVUS
(Post 1986792)
Can't find anything that says when these deliveries will be. But if its anything like SkyWest, these new planes won't be around until late 2016, early 2017. A lot can happen in one year.
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Originally Posted by NVUS
(Post 1986792)
Can't find anything that says when these deliveries will be. But if its anything like SkyWest, these new planes won't be around until late 2016, early 2017. A lot can happen in one year.
He told me this last night, and I thought it was just another rumor until I got the email today. |
I heard it starts in December. Why else would they keep making all these new ejet captains. Seems to check. I dunno and don't really care though.
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 1986807)
I heard it starts in December. Why else would they keep making all these new ejet captains. Seems to check. I dunno and don't really care though.
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Are they going to lower the crosswind component to less than 10?
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Originally Posted by NVUS
(Post 1986808)
If so, then why wasn't that clearly stated in the press release? Wouldn't they want all those upgrade-crazy FOs at other regionals to know just how fast they can be captaining a shiny a new E-175 if they jump ship now?
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Originally Posted by Navmode
(Post 1986646)
Did this really warrant another thread?
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Can't wait for this train wreck to bite united in the ass again
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Haters gonna hate
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Originally Posted by headchief
(Post 1986824)
Are they going to lower the crosswind component to less than 10?
Higher wing...besides the motor will protect the wingtip. |
Originally Posted by Dhood84
(Post 1986715)
Who would win in a deathmatch? JO vs. BB?
DH |
Originally Posted by spaaks
(Post 1986868)
Can't wait for this train wreck to bite united in the ass again
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? |
Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 1986965)
Train wreck? We are already overstaffed on 175 CAs ans FOs.....
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? |
Had Mesa voted yes, that yes vote would have been used as a hammer to get similar yes votes and cost at other regionals.
Do you really think the timing of the 15 airframes had nothing to do with the upcoming vote? JO knew he had those airframes coming long ago! He kept it in his pocket to get what he wanted. United knew where those airframes were going long ago too. They allowed JO to keep that secret as leverage. Even with the NO vote, the decision had long ago been made. They were coming no matter what! Had Mesa voted yes, nothing would have changed with the 15 airframes other than other FFD airlines currently in negotiations would have been told "see, good things happen when you play ball." |
Originally Posted by NVUS
(Post 1986971)
No to burst your bubble, but ExpressJet has you beat. They have been for quite awhile now.
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Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 1986965)
Train wreck? We are already overstaffed on 175 CAs ans FOs.....
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1987144)
People must be really stupid to go to a place like Mesa, wait 18 months to upgrade while making $20k less. But, hey, the engines are under the wing.
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
(Post 1987161)
If you upgrade in 18 months, how are you making less? Into my second year I was making much more than my friends at Envoy who've been there 5+ years. But I agree, if you need good health care for family, stupid to come here.
But hey if that's your cup of tea then go for it! |
Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 1986965)
Train wreck? We are already overstaffed on 175 CAs ans FOs.....
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? |
Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 1986965)
Train wreck? We are already overstaffed on 175 CAs ans FOs.....
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? History repeats itself, just watch |
Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 1986965)
Train wreck? We are already overstaffed on 175 CAs ans FOs.....
We are the #1 ontime UAX feed once again.... JO has yet to announce any hiring bonus for first officers.... But please, indulge me on how this will be a train wreck? #1 again? Is that because that's what they tell you or? UX 16538 EV 73.71 % EV 81.83 % EV 99.98 % OO 5678 S5 71.98 % YV 81.07 % S5 99.88 % EV 5173 YV 70.78 % S5 80.77 % OO 99.63 % YV 1458 OO 69.80 % OO 80.47 % YV 99.18 % AX 1104 UX 67.14 % UX 76.60 % UX 99.14 % YX 876 C5 58.38 % G7 60.81 % AX 99.09 % S5 853 G7 52.03 % C5 59.44 % C5 97.00 % G7 763 AX 47.19 % AX 59.15 % G7 95.94 % C5 567 YX 42.69 % YX 54.34 % YX 94.41 |
Originally Posted by captlonestar
(Post 1987188)
For a company that's main requirement to get hired is a pulse I think your response is comical. You're either really ignorant and inexperienced or just plain dumb.
What regional ISN'T hiring with just a pulse? |
Originally Posted by spaaks
(Post 1986868)
Can't wait for this train wreck to bite united in the ass again
UAL has run a completely FUBAR UAX operation for well over a decade now. Doesn't seem to affect them ONE BIT. And world keeps turning......... |
Originally Posted by mking84
(Post 1987195)
#1 again? Is that because that's what they tell you or?
41 Let's see our final numbers for June: completion factor- 99.0% DO- 65.3% July: completion factor- 99.2% DO- 69.0% August:Completion factor- 99.60%. DO- 73.80% Still waiting for septembers numbers. These numbers look horrible :rolleyes: |
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