I don't know anything about any other training programs, so won't comment on them. Envoy's is very good, that's all I'll say. As for travel benefits, I can attest that we have the best in the industry. We have the exact same benefits as AA employees. There is literally no difference. Whereas others are based on seniority, here it's based on check-in time. You and your wife want to go to Paris, but there are also a ton of senior AA pilots/FA's that are trying to go too? Check in before them and you're ahead on the list. Try doing that as a Skywest, Mesa, ExpressJet, etc; employee.

Just as a side note, one of my friends went to Delta about two years ago and he misses his benefits on AA.

Probably the only thing he misses.:D

I do not disagree with you one bit there

Went to Delta and misses his Envoy flight benefits. There's no limit to what ridiculous crap these sales guys put out.

And I agree. Envoy is near the bottom of the heap on most issues. These Envoy salesmen are EnvoyZombies drunk on the kool aid. This guy here in particular is gunning for Envoy Saleman of the Year.

My Dad had united benefits used them all my life. I hands down love the aa/envoy travel benefits. That's one thing I will miss if I leave before flow. I wish every major did time of check in. My dad is fairly senior and loves to say he loves the seniority system. Until he tried to commute the other night then he was saying all these guys senior to him listed 4 hoirs before the flight and that he can't do any planning with people doing this.

At least with aa you know 24 hours out where you are on the list.

Well if you had actually worked at envoy, you would know that envoy's travel benefits which are the same benefits that mainline AA pilots have IS better. But I guess you have to take every opportunity to bash envoy since they rejected you. I am proud to stand up for the company I work for regardless of the good or the bad. What you do is just sad and pathetic. I'm sure you fit in just fine at Allegiant.

Standing Envoy proud. Aren't all you guys ten feet tall and bulletproof? What's sad and pathetic is all these dreams of flow dancing in your head and you being "all in" with the company. Hey, it may happen for you eventually. Later rather than sooner.

All the W/O's for American have the same benefits as AA. My dad just retired at Piedmont and they had to learn the new travel rules once AA took control.

Well, if you actually read what he posted you may have seen that he said he missed the AA flight benefits. And that was it. It's true, their flight benefits aren't as good as ours. How do I know? Because I've had delta flight benefits at one point.
Didn't you say that there was life after envoy? I'm still waiting for you to prove that true, because all you do is try to tear them up.

I am 293 numbers away to be exact. Actually less than that since we just had a few resignations. They probably just got hired by Delta or United. ( It's nice to have options) I can predict my AA class date to within a few months. Can you? I may even be sooner since they will NOT be stopping the flows this summer due to the remaining recalls. ( this has been verified by the VP of OPS and by a FT pilot called for May ).