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squawkoff 04-11-2016 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Meatball (Post 2107811)
Are you the DB I see wearing a Eagle (Envoy) tie with your Mesa uniform?

When you see that person wearing your coveted Eagle tie why don't you voice your disapproval face to face instead of stating it anonymously on this forum? And start the conversation in person just like you do here, "Hey Douche Bag..." See how that works out for you. Or are you one of those people that is brave behind a keyboard but when it comes face to face your knees suddenly start shaking?

ag386 04-11-2016 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 2107871)
When you see that person wearing your coveted Eagle tie why don't you voice your disapproval face to face instead of stating it anonymously on this forum? And start the conversation in person just like you do here, "Hey Douche Bag..." See how that works out for you. Or are you one of those people that is brave behind a keyboard but when it comes face to face your knees suddenly start shaking?

There are a handful of Envoy guys here that are intensely proud of their airline and consider themselves at least a minimum of a step above any other regional pilot. They are AA pilots right now...after all.

Give Envoy the slight in any way in a post, they'll be all over you on this forum like flies to ****. Now, if you were to encounter them in person it might be a different story. They are mostly punk kids with entitlement syndrome who would likely melt like a hot knife going through butter if confronted in the terminal.

Eaglepilot84 04-11-2016 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2107898)
There are a handful of Envoy guys here that are intensely proud of their airline and consider themselves at least a minimum of a step above any other regional pilot. They are AA pilots right now...after all.

Give Envoy the slight in any way in a post, they'll be all over you on this forum like flies to ****. Now, if you were to encounter them in person it might be a different story. They are mostly punk kids with entitlement syndrome who would likely melt like a hot knife going through butter if confronted in the terminal.

Someone is a little teary eyed that they left envoy when things are finally looking up over here!! You can reapply if you want and probably scoop up some of that prior 121 bonus money. Here's a link to help you get started https://www.envoyair.com/home/careers/

They might even let you keep your old employee number!! Let me know if I can be of any assistance.

squawkoff 04-11-2016 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2107712)
Let's not forget the wing tip landing.

At least Mesa is in good company

American Eagle ATR-72 San Juan PR 5/9/2004 departed runway
American Airlines MD82 CLT 12/13/2009 wingtip on landing
Translates EMB145 STL 2/23/16 both wing tips on landing
Air Wisconsin CRJ200 MHT 3/18/15 wingtip on landing
ExpressJet CRJ200 ATL 7/16/14 wingtip strike
Atlantic Southeast CRJ200 CRW 4/5/14 wingtip strike on landing

There's more but what's the point. You Envoy guys have your minds made up and I'm not going to confuse you with any more facts. Envoy is not immune to incidents. I hope it never happens, but if it does I hope everyone on this forum will have the class and respect (unlike adspilot and those like him) to refrain from making disparaging comments. All of us are only as good as our last flight. We are human. We WILL make mistakes. We all hope the mistakes are caught and corrected before metal is bent or blood is drawn.

Eaglepilot84 04-11-2016 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 2107924)
At least Mesa is in good company

American Eagle ATR-72 San Juan PR 5/9/2004 departed runway
American Airlines MD82 CLT 12/13/2009 wingtip on landing
Translates EMB145 STL 2/23/16 both wing tips on landing
Air Wisconsin CRJ200 MHT 3/18/15 wingtip on landing
ExpressJet CRJ200 ATL 7/16/14 wingtip strike
Atlantic Southeast CRJ200 CRW 4/5/14 wingtip strike on landing

There's more but what's the point. You Envoy guys have your minds made up and I'm not going to confuse you with any more facts.

Honest question, are the rumors true that the flight crew were a guy and girl who were dating and that the Captain (guy) let the FO sit in the left seat? It seems hard to believe but with all the horror stories about Mesa circulating around, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

squawkoff 04-11-2016 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2107898)
There are a handful of Envoy guys here that are intensely proud of their airline and consider themselves at least a minimum of a step above any other regional pilot. They are AA pilots right now...after all.

Give Envoy the slight in any way in a post, they'll be all over you on this forum like flies to ****. Now, if you were to encounter them in person it might be a different story. They are mostly punk kids with entitlement syndrome who would likely melt like a hot knife going through butter if confronted in the terminal.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your airline. It's a healthy thing but can be taken too far. It seems as of late the Envoy folks are doom and gloom when it comes to Mesa, PSA etc. At least they are on this forum but when I talk to them face to face in the terminal they are pleasant and friendly.

squawkoff 04-11-2016 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84 (Post 2107926)
Honest question, are the rumors true that the flight crew were a guy and girl who were dating and that the Captain (guy) let the FO sit in the left seat? It seems hard to believe but with all the horror stories about Mesa circulating around, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Not at all. I flew with the captain several weeks ago. Seemed like a stand up competent guy. We talked at length about it. He is happily married with one child and another in the oven.

boiler07 04-11-2016 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2107898)
There are a handful of Envoy guys here that are intensely proud of their airline and consider themselves at least a minimum of a step above any other regional pilot. They are AA pilots right now...after all.

Give Envoy the slight in any way in a post, they'll be all over you on this forum like flies to ****. Now, if you were to encounter them in person it might be a different story. They are mostly punk kids with entitlement syndrome who would likely melt like a hot knife going through butter if confronted in the terminal.

How's the progress on QOL improvements over at allegiant?

Eaglepilot84 04-11-2016 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 2107932)
Not at all. I flew with the captain several weeks ago. Seemed like a stand up competent guy. We talked at length about it. He is happily married with one child and another in the oven.

Cool, care to share any details about it? Seems like the standup thing to do since a lot of us fly the CRJ and could possibly learn a thing or two about it. I can't believe he's still flying but I clearly don't have all the info, so care to share?

HighFlight 04-11-2016 06:47 PM

Not sure in which country you speak of, but here in the US, bonus dollars are either taxed at 25% flat or based on your income. Whichever method the employer opts to use.

And I am pretty sure that most FOs in this industry will be in the effective tax range of 9-12%, so they will get a good portion of either amount back on their taxes.


Originally Posted by Celeste (Post 2106521)
Kind of off topic... What's the difference in taxes between loan reimbursement and a signing bonus?

A lot of bonus money is taxed at 40-50%... if loan reimbursement is tax free or a lower tax rate, that would be huge... besides, the quicker payout to avoid accruing interest.



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