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12-13-2017, 01:49 AM
#31
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Shirley you can't be serious...
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
There's no "hopefully". Going from rotary wing to a fixed wing USAF/ANG position requires UPT. There are no waivers, partial courses, etc. My UPT class had an Army apache pilot trying to make the switch. He barely made it past solo.
You do the whole thing. You probably do well based on past experience, but you still do the whole thing.
You do the whole thing. You probably do well based on past experience, but you still do the whole thing.
Plopter folk do the entire maritime syllabus in the C-12 and I spend the majority of my time aloft as an airplane, cruising at a respectable 220-240. I have also never briefed "go lower, slower, and land if necessary" as part of my IIMC plan. Surely I will test out of a few AF classes with that!
12-13-2017, 10:16 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,988
Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
First off, I'm pretty butt hurt you compared me to an Army Apache guy Plopter folk do the entire maritime syllabus in the C-12 and I spend the majority of my time aloft as an airplane, cruising at a respectable 220-240. I have also never briefed "go lower, slower, and land if necessary" as part of my IIMC plan. Surely I will test out of a few AF classes with that!
Plopter folk do the entire maritime syllabus in the C-12 and I spend the majority of my time aloft as an airplane, cruising at a respectable 220-240. I have also never briefed "go lower, slower, and land if necessary" as part of my IIMC plan. Surely I will test out of a few AF classes with that!However, as I did mention, if the right people want an abbreviated course to happen, then I guess anything's possible. I think "testing out" of portions of UPT is not a very common happening, but neither is a pilot from another service trying to mesh his previous training with that of the AF.
I will stand by my suggestion that someone whose mental clock has been kind of set in the 220-240 knot range may take a little while to re-adjust to the timing in a T-38.
12-13-2017, 03:33 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Position: CMEL Student
Posts: 6
Anyone have any contacts with the JAX Guard? I'd be humbled and priveleged to fly fighters anywhere, but home life will be centered around JAX.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
12-14-2017, 01:16 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: E170 Fresh Meat
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
No offense meant. My classmate's lack of success was less relevant than the fact that he was required to complete UPT in its entirety.
However, as I did mention, if the right people want an abbreviated course to happen, then I guess anything's possible. I think "testing out" of portions of UPT is not a very common happening, but neither is a pilot from another service trying to mesh his previous training with that of the AF.
I will stand by my suggestion that someone whose mental clock has been kind of set in the 220-240 knot range may take a little while to re-adjust to the timing in a T-38.
However, as I did mention, if the right people want an abbreviated course to happen, then I guess anything's possible. I think "testing out" of portions of UPT is not a very common happening, but neither is a pilot from another service trying to mesh his previous training with that of the AF.
I will stand by my suggestion that someone whose mental clock has been kind of set in the 220-240 knot range may take a little while to re-adjust to the timing in a T-38.
Interesting info all the same. It does make me wonder if it's worth it though. Doing the whole shebang over again is a huge time commitment. Makes me wonder if I should just stay on my side of the fence and focus on gettting 121 experience at a regional.
12-14-2017, 01:35 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: E170 Fresh Meat
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Originally Posted by BamaViper11
Anyone have any contacts with the JAX Guard? I'd be humbled and priveleged to fly fighters anywhere, but home life will be centered around JAX.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
How's that
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12-14-2017, 06:45 AM
#36
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,988
Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
I'll be ok...I guess
It sounds like your ultimate goal is an airline job. If you can get yourself into an RJ cockpit reasonably easily, that's going to be a much faster path to your goal. Going through some version of UPT and jumping into a fighter cockpit is going to take many years to achieve the same goal. Even if you get into a cargo or tanker unit, it's going to take a while.
12-14-2017, 02:52 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 103
Originally Posted by BamaViper11
Anyone have any contacts with the JAX Guard? I'd be humbled and priveleged to fly fighters anywhere, but home life will be centered around JAX.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
Wide-eyed Viper Crew Chief here.. about to graduate from AABI 141 program.
3.7 Major GPA
250 Hours
Will graduate with Commercial SEL/MEL, CFI
AFOQT: Pilot - 98, Nav - 89
TBAS to be completed..
Four years as a Crew Chief.. one Red Flag, one Deployment
Life long athlete, President of this, Volunteered for that.. you all know the gig.
Any and all tips, advice & insults greatly appreciated.. you know wrench-turners can take it (and send it right back!)
Cheers.
12-14-2017, 03:36 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Legacy FO, T-38 IP
Posts: 56
Originally Posted by Ticon
You're probably going to have to pick up the phone and start kicking doors down. Those are good qualifications, pending your not some mouse or major a******, you should be able to apply that well. Have fun - good luck if you need it.
Yup, search for the squadron via the Google, find a phone number, call them and ask to speak with the squadron DO (Director of Operations / Operations Officer). Tell him/her who what where and ask about their pilot hiring process.
Good luck!
12-14-2017, 03:40 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Position: CMEL Student
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
I'll start...First of all, this post is obviously a fake. Anyone who has been drinking fuel samples and meching for the last 4 years is not going to get a 3.7 on any test other than a Breathalyzer. That is of course unless they started offering degrees in drinking monsters, vaping, and complaining about how hard you work.
How's that ?
How's that
?Thanks for the props, y’all. I’m just having a tough time getting my foot in the door at out-of-state units.. Jacksonville in particular. If anyone on here can help me shake a hand during UTA there’s a bottle of Jack coming your way as a thank you!! As much as an Internet promise is worth, I’m not a cocky, “I’ve got this ******* in the bag” candidate. I know my buzz words and how to carry myself in an Ops building. Trying to not bank on a strong resume getting me an interview without the proper facetime.
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