For those that have been through the training or know people who have, what do most find is the most difficult or demanding portion of the training ? Is it the physical training at FLETC, learning spanish in a short period of time, or the flight training at the air training center ? Is there a certain percentage who don't make it through or is that rare ?
The idea of flying for CBP and protecting the US is of great interest to me, but I have no idea what to compare something like this to since I have never attended military or law enforcement training. |
Originally Posted by Turbine
(Post 3045010)
I have never attended military or law enforcement training.
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Do majors take CBP pilots??
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Originally Posted by Valiant
(Post 3045480)
Do majors take CBP pilots??
the ones I know who moved onto airlines all had a military flying background, so they didn’t get the major job off of the CBP experience only. MY GUESS is that someone who has no other experience than CBP were not hired directly into the Major airlines. |
Originally Posted by Valiant
(Post 3045480)
Do majors take CBP pilots??
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Originally Posted by Valiant
(Post 3045480)
Do majors take CBP pilots??
If you want to log a lot of time go fly 121 and move up. Period! CBP is a serious career not a place to step on. Bottom line, you will be flying something that directly supports someone on the ground who eventually puts cuffs on bad guys! Many love it here and many hate it but for the most part almost all remain at CBP until retirement. The velvet handcuffs are tough to break. Flame away. |
Originally Posted by RCpilot2018
(Post 3045695)
It never ceases to amaze me how many BUBBAS come out of the woodwork crawling to CBP when the airlines take a crap! Look, the job is for you to be a LEO who happens to fly. You will have a BADGE on your chest. You will carry a FIREARM. Flight time is NOT rapidly gained here. If your dream is to fly a 787 10 days a month for 300k a year don't come here!!
If you want to log a lot of time go fly 121 and move up. Period! CBP is a serious career not a place to step on. Many love it here and many hate it but for the most part almost all remain at CBP until retirement. The velvet handcuffs are tough to break. Flame away. |
Originally Posted by Turbine
(Post 3045010)
For those that have been through the training or know people who have, what do most find is the most difficult or demanding portion of the training ? Is it the physical training at FLETC, learning spanish in a short period of time, or the flight training at the air training center ? Is there a certain percentage who don't make it through or is that rare ?
The idea of flying for CBP and protecting the US is of great interest to me, but I have no idea what to compare something like this to since I have never attended military or law enforcement training. Flight training within the agency is typical of what you have already been through. A vendor course for the aircraft you are flying (like Flight Safety) and then an in-house syllabus in the actual aircraft. |
Originally Posted by RCpilot2018
(Post 3045695)
It never ceases to amaze me how many BUBBAS come out of the woodwork crawling to CBP when the airlines take a crap! Look, the job is for you to be a LEO who happens to fly. You will have a BADGE on your chest. You will carry a FIREARM. Flight time is NOT rapidly gained here. If your dream is to fly a 787 10 days a month for 300k a year don't come here!!
If you want to log a lot of time go fly 121 and move up. Period! CBP is a serious career not a place to step on. Bottom line, you will be flying something that directly supports someone on the ground who eventually puts cuffs on bad guys! Many love it here and many hate it but for the most part almost all remain at CBP until retirement. The velvet handcuffs are tough to break. Flame away. An exception might be ugleeual's type: that experience level will bring value here even just for a few years. But I would expect AMO to be wary of those types. But, who knows. One point I differ with RCpilot on: In my view (and experience) we are pilots who happen to be LEOs, not vice versa. With few exceptions, our job is to fly and leverage that skill set to enhance the ground mission. Like most flying jobs, we are really paid to bring back the aircraft with all the paint and all the people. No AMO pilot has ever been written up for not putting cuffs on enough bad guys, but plenty have for unsafe flying. JMHO. |
Originally Posted by DustoffVT
(Post 3046009)
This. AMO is the career you never thought of when you got into aviation. But is absolutely a career position and should be approached as such. We do have aircraft that will get you to a major airline, but if you start here without previous twin turbine PIC, it will take a whole career to accumulate the hours.
An exception might be ugleeual's type: that experience level will bring value here even just for a few years. But I would expect AMO to be wary of those types. But, who knows. One point I differ with RCpilot on: In my view (and experience) we are pilots who happen to be LEOs, not vice versa. With few exceptions, our job is to fly and leverage that skill set to enhance the ground mission. Like most flying jobs, we are really paid to bring back the aircraft with all the paint and all the people. No AMO pilot has ever been written up for not putting cuffs on enough bad guys, but plenty have for unsafe flying. JMHO. Some have shown up not even realizing carrying a weapon was part of the job! Was a branch guy for years supporting most of the 3 letter alphabet gov/ state/ city types. Now enjoying the view from the mighty Orion! Stay tight and fly safely! |
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