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C130driver 05-02-2018 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2585195)
I’m hearing from a Herc person it was headed to the boneyard. YGBSM.
Those older Hercs need to be parked.
Js now, I hated the H..every time I took off I spent the whole flight wondering what would go wrong today. They had their run, they all need to be sent to the bone yard.

VSTOLG4 05-02-2018 10:23 PM
RIP fellow aviators!

TiredSoul 05-03-2018 12:51 AM
I don’t know anything about those engines, prop governor and backup or fail safe systems.
Any chance an outboard prop going flat or even beta could have caused this?

Klondike Bear 05-03-2018 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by C130driver (Post 2585203)
Js now, I hated the H..every time I took off I spent the whole flight wondering what would go wrong today. They had their run, they all need to be sent to the bone yard.
This one was an E not an H.

4V14T0R 05-03-2018 04:52 AM
What about something similar to what happened a few years ago overseas with a charter or cargo company (the name is escaping me, maybe National) and the weight shifting on takeoff?


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JTwift 05-03-2018 05:06 AM
Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2585234)
This one was an E not an H.
Even worse

Fdxlag2 05-03-2018 05:28 AM
Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 2585192)
Crash was caught on video. I flew C-130's back in the 1980's and I'm still scratching my head. If a prop had a major issue, or if wing structural occurred that might explain it. News says (not exactly always accurate) the plane had just taken off.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/us/mi...gia/index.html

I saw part of something that looked similar in an F-15 crash after take off. Essentially the aileron rudder interconnect was installed backwards. The faster you went the more the rudder put you out of control. I guess the points are, they will figure it out, and it could be a lot of things.

F4E Mx 05-03-2018 05:59 AM
Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 2585307)
Even worse
The flight path may possibly indicate a split flap occurred on flap retraction? the left flap retracted from the take-off position but the right one didn't and then they couldn't lower the left flap back into position to compensate. Don't know if that is even possible on the C-130. The aircraft is rotating about the roll axis even in a 90 degrees nose-down attitude. Beyond tragic. Prayers for the families.

rickair7777 05-03-2018 07:24 AM
Originally Posted by F4E Mx (Post 2585350)
The flight path may possibly indicate a split flap occurred on flap retraction? the left flap retracted from the take-off position but the right one didn't and then they couldn't lower the left flap back into position to compensate. Don't know if that is even possible on the C-130. The aircraft is rotating about the roll axis even in a 90 degrees nose-down attitude. Beyond tragic. Prayers for the families.
Looks like something asymmetric... engine out, flaps, elevators. Too bad they didn't send it to DM last month :(

rickair7777 05-03-2018 07:31 AM
Originally Posted by Fdxlag2 (Post 2585323)
I saw part of something that looked similar in an F-15 crash after take off. Essentially the aileron rudder interconnect was installed backwards. The faster you went the more the rudder put you out of control. I guess the points are, they will figure it out, and it could be a lot of things.
I think it was a brief stopover in SAV, probably not long enough for controls to get mis-rigged.


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