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05-03-2018, 03:41 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by tahoejace
Dramatic much? 
05-03-2018, 04:21 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by C130driver
Maybe it came across like that, but I’m dead serious. At least towards the end of the H stint on active duty they were poorly maintained (to no fault of the hard working maintainers - just lack of money), beat to death and worn out.
05-03-2018, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tahoejace
I know what you mean, I've been flying these things for 16 years. You're right, they're tired, but I think there's a difference between expecting an HSI to fail and expecting a catastrophic failure causing a Class A. The Air Force flies a lot of parts to failure, but I'm not walking out to every airplane expecting it to crash. I think there's something else to blame here besides just being an old, tired, poorly maintained airplane. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not one to jump on the aging warhorse bandwagon until I see some facts that point in that direction. At this point we don't have any.
05-03-2018, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by C130driver
Fair enough, I am very curious to see the AIB when it comes out; hopefully there is something we can all learn from it when it does.
And let's hope... that until then... the unnecessary and unprofessional public speculation stops.
05-04-2018, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
I don’t know anything about those engines, prop governor and backup or fail safe systems.
Any chance an outboard prop going flat or even beta could have caused this?
Any chance an outboard prop going flat or even beta could have caused this?
It's possible. There are systems in the prop intended to prevent a prop going into flat pitch in flight, but like anything, they're not infallible. I know of at least one instance where a prop has gone below the low-pitch stop in flight.
05-04-2018, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
C-130E's do not have auto-feather, when an engine quits you have to manually pull the condition level to feather.
05-04-2018, 02:52 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by JTwift
C-130s have asymmetrical flap protection (left vs right side) but not split flap protection (onboard left flap vs inboard left flap)
05-04-2018, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Agreed.
And let's hope... that until then... the unnecessary and unprofessional public speculation stops.
And let's hope... that until then... the unnecessary and unprofessional public speculation stops.
It's not like we're on the news telling millions or somebody in the chain of command taking punitive action based upon speculation. What's happening here doesn't hurt anybody. In a month the truth will come out and people will either look like geniuses or asses and likely it'll be forgotten by the majority anyway. Discussions revolving around safety shouldn't be stifled and are most certainly not unprofessional.
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