Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Military
Textron Scorpion Light Attack/ISR jet >

Textron Scorpion Light Attack/ISR jet

Search

Notices
Military Military Aviation

Textron Scorpion Light Attack/ISR jet

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-11-2020 | 11:46 AM
  #1  
USMCFLYR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 13,843
Likes: 1
From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Default Textron Scorpion Light Attack/ISR jet

I had a chance to crawl around in/on one today and talk to the Chief test pilot.
Since I'm not computer savvy enough to post the few poor cell phone pictures I took - I'll link an AOPA video from the Textron Scorpion website that shows the airplane off and there are other videos and other links on the web page about the capabilities of the aircraft.

https://scorpion.txtav.com/en/logbook/s ... B01D2911AE
Reply
Old 06-11-2020 | 02:09 PM
  #2  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 658
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

SOCOM finally got tired of the USAF stalling and is doing their own light attack (aka armed overwatch) procurement using OTA.

It might even eventually include a high/low mix, in which case scorpion could be one of the high contenders.
Reply
Old 06-11-2020 | 02:20 PM
  #3  
Excargodog's Avatar
Perennial Reserve
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 14,177
Likes: 236
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
SOCOM finally got tired of the USAF stalling and is doing their own light attack (aka armed overwatch) procurement using OTA.
Anyone on active duty now will quite possibly retire and die before the USAF procurement system actually fields a new weapon system Started today. They have been working the follow-on tanker to the KC-135 since the late 60s and it’s still a fustercluck.
Reply
Old 06-13-2020 | 02:35 PM
  #4  
aeroengineer's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Excargodog
Anyone on active duty now will quite possibly retire and die before the USAF procurement system actually fields a new weapon system Started today. They have been working the follow-on tanker to the KC-135 since the late 60s and it’s still a fustercluck.
Let's not forget acquiring the B-21, re-engining the B-52 and acquiring the new LRSO missile. All needed IMHO but a lot of taxpayer dollars nonetheless.
Reply
Old 06-13-2020 | 09:26 PM
  #5  
tnkrdrvr's Avatar
Living the SloBus life
Veteran: Air Force
5 Years
On Reserve
20 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,165
Likes: 89
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
SOCOM finally got tired of the USAF stalling and is doing their own light attack (aka armed overwatch) procurement using OTA.

It might even eventually include a high/low mix, in which case scorpion could be one of the high contenders.
SOCOM has money until you start talking airplanes, then they are just full of 💩. They have their own acquisitions process, but a long track record of being unable to make significant acquisitions that involve airplanes. It’s one thing to buy better rifles than big Army is willing to buy, its another to plunk down the billions involved in putting bombs on target.
Reply
Old 06-14-2020 | 07:13 AM
  #6  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 658
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
SOCOM has money until you start talking airplanes, then they are just full of �. They have their own acquisitions process, but a long track record of being unable to make significant acquisitions that involve airplanes. It’s one thing to buy better rifles than big Army is willing to buy, its another to plunk down the billions involved in putting bombs on target.
Can't argue. They haven't done so hot with mini-subs either but they appear to have learned their lessons on that (long and painful). Hopefully they can apply some of that to aviation. I'd certainly like to see them break the USAF's hold on CAS, since they only seem interested in stealthy, supersonic, hyper-expensive fighters which stay high enough to keep the mud off their ascots.
Reply
Old 06-14-2020 | 07:45 AM
  #7  
USMCFLYR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 13,843
Likes: 1
From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Default

Not sure what you mean by the USAF’s hold on CAS rickair.
Reply
Old 06-14-2020 | 07:50 AM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 343
Likes: 2
Default

Yes, the A-10 is really stealthy and supersonic, and stays high enough to keep the mud off their ascots.🥴 But those are some really nice ascots! Sometimes we even call them dickies.....
Reply
Old 06-14-2020 | 08:36 AM
  #9  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 658
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by ipdanno
Yes, the A-10 is really stealthy and supersonic, and stays high enough to keep the mud off their ascots.� But those are some really nice ascots! Sometimes we even call them dickies.....
And they only still operate it because congress keeps shoving it up their you-know-what. I've literally lost count of how many times the AF has tried to poop-can that thing.
Reply
Old 06-14-2020 | 08:38 AM
  #10  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,863
Likes: 658
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Not sure what you mean by the USAF’s hold on CAS rickair.
Meant fixed-wing CAS. USAF is the dog in the manger.

Obviously DoN/USMC has retained our own organic CAS all along, so it's more of an issue for USA and SOCOM. But even so, F-35B's are going to be in much more play for diverse ATO tasking than harriers.

Although in joint ops, it's easy enough for Marines to find themselves in need of CAS which the USAF doesn't want to provide.

Yeah, yeah F-16's and strike eagles can do that... but good luck getting enough of that allocated during a near-peer fight.

For low-intensity, low-cost support, even the A-10 might be a bit much. SOCOM's experiment should be interesting and informative.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
turk
Flight Schools and Training
29
01-13-2012 05:58 AM
F172Driver
Hangar Talk
9
01-20-2009 04:35 AM
MDT06
Major
32
07-16-2008 06:37 PM
vagabond
Pilot Health
1
03-05-2008 01:36 PM
joel payne
Hangar Talk
0
11-06-2006 06:18 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices