F-35/C130 midair during refueling
#31
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Agreed. The Bone guys putting the jet in KMAF with fire warnings that didn't go out and choosing to save the life of the WSO after his seat did not fire, got DFCs out of the deal. These dudes with a midair, two engines without teeth on the same side, and full of go-juice? Putting that pig on the field upright and controlled without going kaboom probably earns them DFCs, unless they caused the collision. So far, no indications of the latter, so I'm inclined to say these guys walk away with major hardware out this deal.
#33
#34
I’m guessing no DFC for this one?
https://theaviationist.com/2020/10/0...lued-176m-usd/
https://theaviationist.com/2020/10/0...lued-176m-usd/
The F-35 set and held 202 knots calibrated airspeed (KCAS) throughout the approach and landing; as a consequence, the aircraft touched down approximately 50 KCAS faster than normal, and approximately 8 degrees more shallow than desired for landing, at a 5.2 degree Angle of Attack. After landing, the pilot attempted a recovery maneuver (go-around) and remained aboard the aircraft about 5 seconds before ejecting.
#36
I read that as there is some type of AT system that was engaged, but not that you couldn't manually manipulate the throttles. I can't imagine a totally automated system being allowed on the carrier for example in either the B or C models.
#37
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Agreed. The Bone guys putting the jet in KMAF with fire warnings that didn't go out and choosing to save the life of the WSO after his seat did not fire, got DFCs out of the deal. These dudes with a midair, two engines without teeth on the same side, and full of go-juice? Putting that pig on the field upright and controlled without going kaboom probably earns them DFCs, unless they caused the collision. So far, no indications of the latter, so I'm inclined to say these guys walk away with major hardware out this deal.
#38
Off hand, I can't recall once in my lengthy career where service-members abandoned their fellows in a situation like that, good to know nothing's changed.
#39
Student Pilot in Right seat, student WSO back right. IP and IWSO in left seats. I think first ride for both in the jet. So, Instructors wanted to see students get out first. Student WSO pulls the handle. Hatch pops, seat goes up a few inches, and stops.
Everyone looks at each other and says WTF?!?!?
Tried pulling the handle multiple times, nothing happens.
AC makes a command decision and says we’re landing...we all make it, or all don’t.
Awesome. Well done, Hopper.
Post Script: all Bones were grounded for a one-time inspection. Apparently, a LOT of seats were misrigged and would not have worked.
That was kept quiet for obvious reasons. Took several months to get them all fixed.
#40
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Agreed. The Bone guys putting the jet in KMAF with fire warnings that didn't go out and choosing to save the life of the WSO after his seat did not fire, got DFCs out of the deal. These dudes with a midair, two engines without teeth on the same side, and full of go-juice? Putting that pig on the field upright and controlled without going kaboom probably earns them DFCs, unless they caused the collision. So far, no indications of the latter, so I'm inclined to say these guys walk away with major hardware out this deal.
The darker part of that story is they found out none of their seats would have fired for the same reason the student couldn’t get out... but they didn’t know that at the time.
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