FY08 Force shaping updates...
08-23-2007 | 06:23 PM
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Pretty sure it's the same matrix, you can right click the banner to remove it too though. They also have the countdown of VSP slots on the VSP section of the page, be real interesting to see how quickly they count down. I expect an update to the VSP program mid year when they don't get the numbers. I was likely planning on leaving late next summer anyhow, so that still gives me until the next program is offered.
08-23-2007 | 06:48 PM
#112
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http://ask.afpc.randolph.af.mil/forc...icerMatrix.xls
Shows the shortage for 11B as 178, though I don't know the link will work.
What I'm more curious about, what's with the immense shortages from the 2005/6 year groups, particularly in 11M and 11F? Is that just reflecting the fact that UPT + FTU takes a while or did they just not create any for those year groups? I mean, we can't be short 414 heavy copilots can we? Granted, I can't see how a 2006 guy could be at a unit yet but I'm clearly not understanding how they come up with the numbers.
If you do the math for a 15 year guy, it's a fair chunk of change.
Shows the shortage for 11B as 178, though I don't know the link will work.
What I'm more curious about, what's with the immense shortages from the 2005/6 year groups, particularly in 11M and 11F? Is that just reflecting the fact that UPT + FTU takes a while or did they just not create any for those year groups? I mean, we can't be short 414 heavy copilots can we? Granted, I can't see how a 2006 guy could be at a unit yet but I'm clearly not understanding how they come up with the numbers.
If you do the math for a 15 year guy, it's a fair chunk of change.
08-23-2007 | 07:41 PM
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http://ask.afpc.randolph.af.mil/forc...icerMatrix.xls
Shows the shortage for 11B as 178, though I don't know the link will work.
What I'm more curious about, what's with the immense shortages from the 2005/6 year groups, particularly in 11M and 11F? Is that just reflecting the fact that UPT + FTU takes a while or did they just not create any for those year groups? I mean, we can't be short 414 heavy copilots can we? Granted, I can't see how a 2006 guy could be at a unit yet but I'm clearly not understanding how they come up with the numbers.
If you do the math for a 15 year guy, it's a fair chunk of change.
Shows the shortage for 11B as 178, though I don't know the link will work.
What I'm more curious about, what's with the immense shortages from the 2005/6 year groups, particularly in 11M and 11F? Is that just reflecting the fact that UPT + FTU takes a while or did they just not create any for those year groups? I mean, we can't be short 414 heavy copilots can we? Granted, I can't see how a 2006 guy could be at a unit yet but I'm clearly not understanding how they come up with the numbers.
If you do the math for a 15 year guy, it's a fair chunk of change.
08-23-2007 | 07:56 PM
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08-23-2007 | 08:28 PM
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Not to bring you down, but did you get the e-mail asking for volunteers for 365 day tours to Iraq to instruct in C-172's. PIT or FTU instructors were the pre-reqs, so AETC isn't safe anymore either.
Anyone know what defensive systems the C-172 has?
Anyone know what defensive systems the C-172 has?
08-23-2007 | 09:05 PM
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I've heard and read both the SAMA and the C-172...defensive systems? I believe you fly around with an M-4 in the back seat in case you go down in hostile country...which is pretty much anywhere. Pilot training out in the "sticks" though, not near any major cities.
But back to the topic on the thread - I don't understand the AF anymore...they're offering Force Shaping to 2005 people but all of the those numbers show way, way negative. WTF?
But back to the topic on the thread - I don't understand the AF anymore...they're offering Force Shaping to 2005 people but all of the those numbers show way, way negative. WTF?
08-23-2007 | 09:31 PM
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Yeah doesn't make sense to me either. Lots of stuff the AF does doesnt make sense to me anymore. I wished I had listened to those majors who told me to go guard from the beginning while I was still a cadet
08-24-2007 | 03:09 AM
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Well ya did...I didn't get the memo on that one. I appreciate you letting me down easy though.
08-24-2007 | 06:26 AM
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I think the one I got was for the SAMA, and I don't even know what that is. However, the location was Taji, while it is somewhat in the sticks--it is incredibly bad guy land. There is no fixed wing runway there (nothing big enough for us anyway), so rotary only, and we've lost a lot of rotary there. Taji is bad, real bad, even by Iraq standards
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