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Old 01-30-2008, 10:00 AM
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Ok so, I finish my degree in may of this year. (If nothing Happens) I will be graduating Sigma Cum Laude, which is a 3.9-4.0 gpa. After speaking with a ANG recruiter, supposedly I have a pretty good shot at a flying career... Seeing as I already have flight experiance.

Now my question is this, can one fly for the ANG or a Reserve Unit and still fly for an Airline at the same time?

Or does it have to be one or the other?

Either way, The ANG seems to be the way I want to go... Get in some service to my country and get much needed flight time as well.
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Ok so, I finish my degree in may of this year. (If nothing Happens) I will be graduating Sigma Cum Laude, which is a 3.9-4.0 gpa. After speaking with a ANG recruiter, supposedly I have a pretty good shot at a flying career... Seeing as I already have flight experiance.

Now my question is this, can one fly for the ANG or a Reserve Unit and still fly for an Airline at the same time?

Or does it have to be one or the other?

Either way, The ANG seems to be the way I want to go... Get in some service to my country and get much needed flight time as well.

If you have a 3.9 GPA, you are overqualified for a pilot slot in my Guard unit. Unless, of course, your major was beer drinking and your minor was womanizing.

To answer your question: yes, you can fly for the airlines and the Guard/Reserves. In fact, it is a pretty good way to go, unless you have a double commute (live in a different city from both jobs); then it sucks.

Good Luck and apply at lots of units if you are serious.
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Originally Posted by JayDee View Post
Ok so, I finish my degree in may of this year. (If nothing Happens) I will be graduating Sigma Cum Laude, which is a 3.9-4.0 gpa. After speaking with a ANG recruiter, supposedly I have a pretty good shot at a flying career... Seeing as I already have flight experiance.

Now my question is this, can one fly for the ANG or a Reserve Unit and still fly for an Airline at the same time?

Or does it have to be one or the other?

Either way, The ANG seems to be the way I want to go... Get in some service to my country and get much needed flight time as well.
Dude,
Get over yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of guys out there with exceptional hand eye coordination and you think you are owed for a GPA at what school (state U)??? I am sure you are exceptionally qualified, but you come across as a guy I would not hire.

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Old 01-30-2008, 02:10 PM
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Network, network, network! More important than gpa in my opinion.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:10 PM
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Just make sure you let the ANG folk know your GPA, flight experience, and desire to build time for the airlines.
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Try and avoid the fish out there, most of them have mercury in them and will make you crazy if you ingest them.

You can fly both in the military and airlines, in either the ANG or AFRC. Talk to people at units you are intersted in regarding the airline and the unit to see the level of difficulty. Each aircraft has its own level of pain, either through deployments or training requirements that mandate extra training.

Most ANG or AFRC units would be glad to hire a person that is capable of achiving Sigma Cum Laude. You need to understand that both ANG and AFRC will have to commit big $$ to send you to pilot training and the most important thing they will be looking at is what the return on their investment will be. If you look to be a person that is going to give them mimimum particiaption, because of your other career choices, you will not be as desireable as someone, that might be a Maga Cum Laude that wants to be fully involved in the unit mission.

Bottom line is that you are well qualified, and need to make sure any unit knows you are planning on supporting the unit's mission completely.

Good luck...
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Ok so, I finish my degree in may of this year. (If nothing Happens) I will be graduating Sigma Cum Laude, which is a 3.9-4.0 gpa.
Sigma Cum Laude? I guess I wasn't smart enough to go to a school that offered one of those. Most schools only give Magna cum laude — 3.700 to 3.899 or Summa cum laude — 3.900 or above.
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Dude,
Get over yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of guys out there with exceptional hand eye coordination and you think you are owed for a GPA at what school (state U)??? I am sure you are exceptionally qualified, but you come across as a guy I would not hire.

Fish.

I wasnt trying to sound like a douche... My parents had no idea what it was... However, neither of them went to college. I am not owed anything for it. I earned it. I only wanted to know if I could do both, and I only stressed the GPA, because that same point was stressed to me. He (the recruiter) more or less said, that if it was 3.9-4.0 I had no shot. So I wanted to make the point that I had already achieved the gpa level that was needed. Btw I did my share of beer drinking as a major pasttime, but my technical major is Business Management.

Sorry I irritated you fish, That wasnt my intention at all...
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Originally Posted by JayDee View Post
I wasnt trying to sound like a douche... My parents had no idea what it was... However, neither of them went to college. I am not owed anything for it. I earned it. I only wanted to know if I could do both, and I only stressed the GPA, because that same point was stressed to me. He (the recruiter) more or less said, that if it was 3.9-4.0 I had no shot. So I wanted to make the point that I had already achieved the gpa level that was needed. Btw I did my share of beer drinking as a major pasttime, but my technical major is Business Management.

Sorry I irritated you fish, That wasnt my intention at all...
First lesson, recruiters don't know dick about pilot hiring. Maybe what you need for your package(sts) but that's about it. They have no influence in the process.
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Listen to both Slice and Toejam, Getting a pilot slot in the Guard/Reserve is more about personality, dedication to the unit, whether or not they think you'll make it through training than your grades in college. If there is a squadron in your area that your interested in I would highly recommend finding out when their drill weekend is and go in and talk to the guys/gals in the squadron. Recruiters really don't no anything when it comes to pilot hiring as Slice stated. The only other thing I have to add is that if you are going Guard/Reserve I would plan on giving at least a year or 2 after training to learn your aircraft and mission before you go to the airlines. Not necessary but it will make you better at your job in the long run and you'll gain valuable multi/jet time for the airlines.
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