Age Limit
03-27-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyArmy
I was told, however, that I would be going to an abbreviated UPT. I do not know all that much about that scenario, but I was wondering if the age limit still applies to this "abbreviated UPT" that I was told about?
Any other questions feel free to PM me. I attended the course when it was at Laughlin AFB. (Del Rio by the sea.) If you go in the future, the course is now going to be at Randolph AFB in San Antonio.
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03-27-2010, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
For the USAF, USAFR, and ANG, it is 30...I'm pretty sure this is Federal law/Title 10-driven, meaning the other military branches are the same.
I think there may be a title ten age limit for military personnel..ie age 40. The services normally use age 35 for officers but there have been recent waivers beyond that. Age 40 makes sense because you have to retire at age 60, so they want you to have a shot at reirement.
03-27-2010, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blastoff
If you started the process now, you'd be 35 by the time you start UPT (which I think was the cut-off for prior Nav's a few years ago). If you were a prior Navigator in the Air Force or an extremely well liked enlisted aircrew member/crew chief in the same unit, you'd have a shot. Guy off the street that nobody knows...sorry, your chances are almost zero, even if you showed up with the waiver stapled to the top of your package.
Blastoff - Actually, I work on munitions for the F-16 (enlisted two years ago...sorry, failed to mentioned that!). Since my unit is downsizing, I don't think they are even holding a board this year for pilot slots. I suppose my question should have been directed at getting a slot at other units. I'm very well-respected at my current unit.
If you can shed any additional light on my chances for waiver, I'd appreciate it. I'm 33 years, 5 months old. Thanks so much.
03-28-2010, 04:24 AM
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Lastshot,
I hate to rain on your parade, but I believe that rickair is right in that there really is no up side to hiring someone who is approaching an age limit, who is unknown by the new unit, when they can hire a younger guy, either from their own unit, or off the street, who shows an equal desire to succeed. The thing that you have going for you is that you're already a pilot, however, in the overall scheme of things, that in and of itself is really not too important. I say all the above, coming from basically the same situation that you are in, except that when I applied, I was a SSGT weapons loader, but not a pilot. Regardless, don't let any of us influence your decision. Perseverance is one of the keys to a successful life. If you really want it, go for it.
Good luck.
JJ
I hate to rain on your parade, but I believe that rickair is right in that there really is no up side to hiring someone who is approaching an age limit, who is unknown by the new unit, when they can hire a younger guy, either from their own unit, or off the street, who shows an equal desire to succeed. The thing that you have going for you is that you're already a pilot, however, in the overall scheme of things, that in and of itself is really not too important. I say all the above, coming from basically the same situation that you are in, except that when I applied, I was a SSGT weapons loader, but not a pilot. Regardless, don't let any of us influence your decision. Perseverance is one of the keys to a successful life. If you really want it, go for it.
Good luck.
JJ
03-28-2010, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Lastshot,
I hate to rain on your parade, but I believe that rickair is right in that there really is no up side to hiring someone who is approaching an age limit, who is unknown by the new unit, when they can hire a younger guy, either from their own unit, or off the street, who shows an equal desire to succeed. The thing that you have going for you is that you're already a pilot, however, in the overall scheme of things, that in and of itself is really not too important. I say all the above, coming from basically the same situation that you are in, except that when I applied, I was a SSGT weapons loader, but not a pilot. Regardless, don't let any of us influence your decision. Perseverance is one of the keys to a successful life. If you really want it, go for it.
Good luck.
JJ
I hate to rain on your parade, but I believe that rickair is right in that there really is no up side to hiring someone who is approaching an age limit, who is unknown by the new unit, when they can hire a younger guy, either from their own unit, or off the street, who shows an equal desire to succeed. The thing that you have going for you is that you're already a pilot, however, in the overall scheme of things, that in and of itself is really not too important. I say all the above, coming from basically the same situation that you are in, except that when I applied, I was a SSGT weapons loader, but not a pilot. Regardless, don't let any of us influence your decision. Perseverance is one of the keys to a successful life. If you really want it, go for it.
Good luck.
JJ
03-28-2010, 08:17 AM
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Lastshot,
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
03-28-2010, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Lastshot,
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
03-28-2010, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Lastshot,
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
My flying background started when my Guard unit hired me to become a pilot. I went to UPT, then on to F-100 fighter training, and returned to my unit to fly the Super Sabre. 5 years later we transitioned to the A-10, which I flew from 1979 until the day I retired, which was the last week of 1999. During that time, I got hired by Pan American, left there for UPS, which I also left, and finally ended up at FedEx, where my last flying position was as a captain on our MD-11's. At age 60, I went to the back seat of the 727 and did that until two years ago when I had a heart problem. Since then I've been out on long term disability, and will remain that way until I retire 51 weeks from now.
The major differences between what you're trying to do and my situation back then are: 1) I was 26 years old when I went to pilot training (but the max age limit back then was 26&1/2); 2) After returning from Vietnam, I had joined that unit as a SSGT weapons loader, and had been there for almost 2 years prior to applying for the pilot training slot; 3) I was not a pilot when I was selected for OCS and then UPT.
Again, good luck.
JJ
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