Air Force Academy
#21
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
Better than just a good school. As an aside, they did teach us ring knockers how to spell a-s-i-n-i-n-e! And, as to the price...while there, they paid us a monthly stipend, not to mention the full-ride scholarship. At least in my day, if you were qualified, you were guaranteed a UPT slot ahead of all others, i.e. OTS, ROTC. The post-career network for business and industry contacts isn't too shabby, either.
Oh my, I misspelled a word, I better go shoot myself. I was merely pointing out that there are other options. What the hell is wrong with you people? Getting upset over every little thing someone posts, mostly in jest.
And about in your day being qualified above all others. Things have changed since then, and they are about to change again in a big way again, I think. I've been instructing at Vance for 2 years now and the product we put out from here now is far different from even when I went through just seven years ago...so I guarantee it is a world of difference from what you went through and the skills you were taught while you were here.
#22
Originally Posted by gsu50
Oh my, I misspelled a word, I better go shoot myself. I was merely pointing out that there are other options. What the hell is wrong with you people? Getting upset over every little thing someone posts, mostly in jest.
And about in your day being qualified above all others. Things have changed since then, and they are about to change again in a big way again, I think. I've been instructing at Vance for 2 years now and the product we put out from here now is far different from even when I went through just seven years ago...so I guarantee it is a world of difference from what you went through and the skills you were taught while you were here.
And about in your day being qualified above all others. Things have changed since then, and they are about to change again in a big way again, I think. I've been instructing at Vance for 2 years now and the product we put out from here now is far different from even when I went through just seven years ago...so I guarantee it is a world of difference from what you went through and the skills you were taught while you were here.
#23
Cloudbase
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 717A
Posts: 532
Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Like the F-117. Not a fighter, but a good way to trick pilots into flying it.
My brother was USAFA class of '86. Now he's a bird colonel in command of an airbase (in Del Rio). It's a good education, good experience, and the price is right.
My brother was USAFA class of '86. Now he's a bird colonel in command of an airbase (in Del Rio). It's a good education, good experience, and the price is right.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 747 FO
Posts: 175
I'm a 2001 grad and I can tell you Skybus must be hypoxic. When I was there, we were rated the #1 School for Overall Academic Experience in the country, I think during that time we slightly edged out Harvard or maybe Yale. Either way, those rankings are fleeting but rest assured you'll get a VERY good education and get to do things most college kids or adults never imagine. Furthermore, you'll have a guaranteed (nearly- with force shaping being what it is) job upon graduation and the pay is very competitive. Number one reason to go, is you'll meet similarly motivated, honest and hard working individuals and you'll be part of a team for the rest of your life. Good luck.
I'd tell you to keep your chin in, but that would be e-training and who wants to do that?
I'm likely to be flamed out of existence now...
I'd tell you to keep your chin in, but that would be e-training and who wants to do that?
I'm likely to be flamed out of existence now...
#25
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
In the first place, I said if one (an AFA grad) were qualified, he had a ... Not "qualified above all others." Secondly, if those skills you speak of now are in any way similar to the cockpit management skills of today's newer-generation equipment, more power to ya. Old fashioned dive-bombing and strafing took certain skills as well, but I digress. The Falcon 900 EXs we fly are truly state-of-the-art machines, but the complexity of the systems and the resultant mission integration isn't that tough of a nut to crack, even for old troops like me. Finally, your posts here, and like that in your tete-a-tete with the FedEx guy, appear a little condescending, and twinged with a hint of jealousy. That may not be the intent, they just come across that way. FWIW, the more important aspect of which I wrote, is the post-career networking opportunities offered in professions far more lucrative, and even more satisfying, than flying the proverbial line...
Networking IS the key. I agree whole-heartedly, but I've found that most of your contacts come from a time when you have finished pilot training and "proved" yourself, not from college. But I may be wrong.
The "skills" I was referring to was supposed to be a sarcastic remark about the massive amount of people the Air Force has firehosed into the system to produce more pilots since the 1999 "We are in a critical shortage of pilots" line that was given to Congress. In fact, that is what I'm writing my masters paper on.....that it is actually harder now to wash out of pilot training than at any other time in our history, and that there are more than a few that are slipping through the cracks that should not have wings. I truly believe that over the next five to ten years, we will see a dramatic rise in Class A accidents. I hope I'm wrong.
#26
Fair enough, gsu. If you're in jest or maybe being tongue-in-cheek, use one of the smilies. Then, some of your intent might filter through to your audience...especially old farts like me. I honestly was not aware of the UPT situation today, other than the dual track stuff they implemented a few years ago. Best of luck sifting thru the bureaucratic maze they hit you guys with as you try to qualify the junior birdmen (and women) for the only real flying they'll ever have to do.
#27
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
Fair enough, gsu. If you're in jest or maybe being tongue-in-cheek, use one of the smilies. Then, some of your intent might filter through to your audience...especially old farts like me. I honestly was not aware of the UPT situation today, other than the dual track stuff they implemented a few years ago. Best of luck sifting thru the bureaucratic maze they hit you guys with as you try to qualify the junior birdmen (and women) for the only real flying they'll ever have to do.
Yeah, I tried the smiley thing on another part of this board and still got the "get off your high horse" bit. I guess I just come off that way, oh well.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 500
Originally Posted by gsu50
The "skills" I was referring to was supposed to be a sarcastic remark about the massive amount of people the Air Force has firehosed into the system to produce more pilots since the 1999 "We are in a critical shortage of pilots" line that was given to Congress. In fact, that is what I'm writing my masters paper on.....that it is actually harder now to wash out of pilot training than at any other time in our history, and that there are more than a few that are slipping through the cracks that should not have wings.
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