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Old 07-20-2009, 08:39 PM
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So, who knows what concerning the CBM T-6 mishap on 9 Jul?
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:19 PM
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Found out while I was at Columbus; not until after 9:00PM (saw it on the local news).

Solo student, he got out, plane crashed. And that is all.
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Iraqi solo stud...has defintiely been kept quiet.
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Here we go again.....
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I saw articles reporting that the USAF was refusing to release the student's name or nationality. This is another case where plain honesty would prevent any questions, but trying to hide the facts (those that would be released in any other mishap) only creates a controversy that otherwise would not exist.

If we are training Iraqi's, why keep it secret, we've trained Pakistani's, Saudi's, Mexican's, Polish, etc?
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Before we go out with spears, It is not common practice to ID names/ranks/nationalities of aircrew involved in mishaps who are not seriously injured or are not considered a casualty. We have class A and B mishaps all the time without anyone being ID'd in the news. Normally is only released via a JAGMAN. In this case there may be SOFA in place that would preclude such release that we are not aware of. Falls under the category of OPSEC and need to know regardless of classification.
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My last tour was OIC of the prep school for RSNF (Royal Saudi Naval Forces) and there is some protocal for the foreign aviators. Always could be more to it of course.
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I don't care where the kid is from...I'd just like to know what happened. Not to second guess but because I have a vested interest.

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I agree, and for those that fly the airplane and are in the T-6 community I'm sure your respective safety departments will promulgate mishap reports or any guidance or procedural changes based on the results of a mishap. I just don't think the general public always has a need to know who did what and when, no matter who it is and what type of mishap it was. How many aviators have shelled out of airplanes with "minor" injuries yet were never ID'd to the public, I don't see this mishap as being any different.
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN View Post
I agree, and for those that fly the airplane and are in the T-6 community I'm sure your respective safety departments will promulgate mishap reports or any guidance or procedural changes based on the results of a mishap. I just don't think the general public always has a need to know who did what and when, no matter who it is and what type of mishap it was. How many aviators have shelled out of airplanes with "minor" injuries yet were never ID'd to the public, I don't see this mishap as being any different.
I somewhat disagree. A multi-million dollar piece of taxpayer property was destroyed. Unless there are OPSEC or technology considerations, some basic info should be released. Otherwise the situation gives off coverup vibes.

Political considerations may preclude naming the pilot (or his nationality).
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