Questions: Pensacola T-6 IP job for AF types
08-25-2009, 08:17 PM
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I enjoyed Corpus a lot - so I don't have much bad to say about it; but then again even though I said there wasn't much bad about living in Pcola - 10 weeks there was enough for me. I'm glad to see the T-6s coming on line for the SNAs too. Considering the amount of time they have been over at VT-10 I'm wondering why it has taken so long.
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In April 2005, VT-10 completed the transition to the T-6 and flew its last T-34C “Turbomentor” student sortie. VT-10 conducted two detachments to Key West NAS, one detachment to Randolph AFB, TX, as well as two separate hurricane evacuations when hurricanes Dennis and Katrina made landfall on the Gulf Coast. The squadron implemented the Joint Primary Aircraft Training System (JPATS) format for training and rewrote T-6A course-ware to reflect the first major change in Naval Aviation grading philosophy in a generation; the Multi-Service Navigator Training System (MNTS).
08-25-2009, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I bet that has someones' hackles standing on end! 
You know of whom I speak Bunk!
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He has a model of the B in his office. We all thought a certain squadron was going to get it first. On the airspace thing, it was frustrating at times, especially on nice, clear days. Finding a section or place to perform HAPLs/LAPLs was painful at times. The 34, for me, was so uncomfortable. It was noisy, the canopy glass was so scratched up, the A/C didn't work great, smelled of gas constantly, etc. I hear the T-6 is nice and comfortable, a canopy you can see out of, etc. There were days where you had to pick a hole to do aero and I had this civilian plane fly right through my loop, he popped righout out of a cloud. Recovered from a spin and bam, a light aircraft fly's by. Not always fun like that. But I think the T-6 is certainly a step in the right direction. The 34 was fun but I wouldn't want to do it again. It would have to be T-6 or 45 for me, which it will be
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08-26-2009, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
I think he was pretty disappointed by it He has a model of the B in his office. We all thought a certain squadron was going to get it first.
On the airspace thing, it was frustrating at times, especially on nice, clear days. Finding a section or place to perform HAPLs/LAPLs was painful at times. The 34, for me, was so uncomfortable. It was noisy, the canopy glass was so scratched up, the A/C didn't work great, smelled of gas constantly, etc. I hear the T-6 is nice and comfortable, a canopy you can see out of, etc. There were days where you had to pick a hole to do aero and I had this civilian plane fly right through my loop, he popped righout out of a cloud. Recovered from a spin and bam, a light aircraft fly's by. Not always fun like that. But I think the T-6 is certainly a step in the right direction. The 34 was fun but I wouldn't want to do it again. It would have to be T-6 or 45 for me, which it will be.
He has a model of the B in his office. We all thought a certain squadron was going to get it first. On the airspace thing, it was frustrating at times, especially on nice, clear days. Finding a section or place to perform HAPLs/LAPLs was painful at times. The 34, for me, was so uncomfortable. It was noisy, the canopy glass was so scratched up, the A/C didn't work great, smelled of gas constantly, etc. I hear the T-6 is nice and comfortable, a canopy you can see out of, etc. There were days where you had to pick a hole to do aero and I had this civilian plane fly right through my loop, he popped righout out of a cloud. Recovered from a spin and bam, a light aircraft fly's by. Not always fun like that. But I think the T-6 is certainly a step in the right direction. The 34 was fun but I wouldn't want to do it again. It would have to be T-6 or 45 for me, which it will be
.You mean to say it was an airplane? I'm kidding of course, I see your point. I love it when I look up at the ODO desk and see a brand new jet next to my name, then when I get in and the new smell is still there and everything works....it is nice. Certainly the T6 will inherently add some value to our training continuum.
08-26-2009, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
You mean to say it was an airplane? I'm kidding of course, I see your point. I love it when I look up at the ODO desk and see a brand new jet next to my name, then when I get in and the new smell is still there and everything works....it is nice. Certainly the T6 will inherently add some value to our training continuum.
08-26-2009, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Yeah, it's nice to have something new. I used to land at night in the 34 and it was so very difficult to see out due to the horrid visibility of the 34 canopy. Just one of my pet peeves with the old bird, one of many. Of course the Navy wasn't going to replace them (the canopy's), the T-6 is coming. Granted it has been coming for 8 years now but it's coming!!
We use them for CAS/STK(lo safe/spotter) hops...lots of fun but I hear ya. Still a very good trainer.
08-26-2009, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
The 34 was fun but I wouldn't want to do it again.
Easily one of the highlights of my career teaching in that plane and I can only hope to find a job after retirement that will match the combination of sheer fun and job satisfaction.
Back to my T-44 and another single enigine aproach...ho hum.
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08-26-2009, 09:07 PM
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OK - not having instructed in the T-34 or the T-44 - but you are saying that you would much rather instruct in the Weenie? I don't know if I'm surprised or not. I suppose the areas of instruction might be more interesting in the T-34, but do you like instructing the brand new students more so than the more advanced students? I've just always wanted to fly some version of the King (or is it Queen) Air?
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08-27-2009, 05:23 AM
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For those considering a T-6A/B training position, here is a military training video off of the Hawker/Beechcraft website that is interesting.
Hawker Beechcraft | Military/Trainer - Video Total Training
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Hawker Beechcraft | Military/Trainer - Video Total Training
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08-27-2009, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
OK - not having instructed in the T-34 or the T-44 - but you are saying that you would much rather instruct in the Weenie? I don't know if I'm surprised or not. I suppose the areas of instruction might be more interesting in the T-34, but do you like instructing the brand new students more so than the more advanced students? I've just always wanted to fly some version of the King (or is it Queen) Air?
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