ANG UPT Selection shot....
#11
I've helped a handful of guys get prepared for ANG interviews...some were internal and some were not. Your scores are very competitive. You probably have a chance.
The problem is when you apply you don't know if you are are REALLY applying or if the unit is checking a square because the slot is filled with an internal guy. The fix? Apply like crazy, and go for it. Some units ARE hiring off the street.
I love LivinginMEM, and he's got a point. However, I was a major geek when I was in ROTC in the sense I was looking for all the info I could get too. I didn't have message boards in 1983-84, but if they did I would have been on them. Heck...you have more SA than I did then..I didn't even KNOW about the ANG options. We all have our ornery moments (see: Waylon Jennings, Lonesome, Ornrey, and Mean...) but I wish you luck.
That said--joining the Air Force is not easy, but lots do make it in. Rushing an ANG unit, however, is sort of a marriage. You and the unit and stuck with each other once the deal is done, so they tend to move with great caution and pragmatism. Test scores, GPAs, and the like are important, but the million dollar (or six million I should say...) question is can you be a part of this "family" for the next ten, fifteen, or twenty years. It is a delicate process.
The big pitch I give to fighter pilot hopefuls is this: Do you really, really want fighters? If so...then give yourself a year or two to pursue every slot offered by the ANG and rush like crazy. Budget some money for travel, gifts, and understand its an uphill climb. I recommend a plan B as well. There ARE some C-17, KC-135, and C-130 units hiring and sending guys and gals to UPT. It may sound corney, but even though I ended up with over 2000 hours in the mighty Eagle, I went to UPT to get WINGS. The guy who graduated last in my class was still an Air Force pilot, and flying for Uncle Sam is a both a great job and a wonderful privilege. Also...as a guy who flew circles in the sky with nothing to shoot down peacekeeping in Iraq I couldn't help but notice MC-130 and AC-130 guys were doing some tough work in tough places, and their slick buddies (C-130s and C-17s) were doing NVG approaches into some nasty places. In short...sounds corny....but we are all warriors at times. Chase your dreams...but don't close any doors.
And you can PM or call anytime. I love to help anyone who wants to serve...
The problem is when you apply you don't know if you are are REALLY applying or if the unit is checking a square because the slot is filled with an internal guy. The fix? Apply like crazy, and go for it. Some units ARE hiring off the street.
I love LivinginMEM, and he's got a point. However, I was a major geek when I was in ROTC in the sense I was looking for all the info I could get too. I didn't have message boards in 1983-84, but if they did I would have been on them. Heck...you have more SA than I did then..I didn't even KNOW about the ANG options. We all have our ornery moments (see: Waylon Jennings, Lonesome, Ornrey, and Mean...) but I wish you luck.
That said--joining the Air Force is not easy, but lots do make it in. Rushing an ANG unit, however, is sort of a marriage. You and the unit and stuck with each other once the deal is done, so they tend to move with great caution and pragmatism. Test scores, GPAs, and the like are important, but the million dollar (or six million I should say...) question is can you be a part of this "family" for the next ten, fifteen, or twenty years. It is a delicate process.
The big pitch I give to fighter pilot hopefuls is this: Do you really, really want fighters? If so...then give yourself a year or two to pursue every slot offered by the ANG and rush like crazy. Budget some money for travel, gifts, and understand its an uphill climb. I recommend a plan B as well. There ARE some C-17, KC-135, and C-130 units hiring and sending guys and gals to UPT. It may sound corney, but even though I ended up with over 2000 hours in the mighty Eagle, I went to UPT to get WINGS. The guy who graduated last in my class was still an Air Force pilot, and flying for Uncle Sam is a both a great job and a wonderful privilege. Also...as a guy who flew circles in the sky with nothing to shoot down peacekeeping in Iraq I couldn't help but notice MC-130 and AC-130 guys were doing some tough work in tough places, and their slick buddies (C-130s and C-17s) were doing NVG approaches into some nasty places. In short...sounds corny....but we are all warriors at times. Chase your dreams...but don't close any doors.
And you can PM or call anytime. I love to help anyone who wants to serve...
#12
Before I begin I know there have been a ton of "what are my chances???" type post although none of them truly fit my profile.
I am 23, working at a pretty good job and have a dream to fly for the military. I have been researching ANG slots and here are my stats:
PCSM: 97
AFOQT pilot: 99 nav:92
TT: 2100
ATP
3 Type ratings
College GPA:3.9
Clean record
My first choice on airframe would be the A10. Any insight from Guard, Reserve, or Active duty personnel would have would be great.
Thanks for the help.
I am 23, working at a pretty good job and have a dream to fly for the military. I have been researching ANG slots and here are my stats:
PCSM: 97
AFOQT pilot: 99 nav:92
TT: 2100
ATP
3 Type ratings
College GPA:3.9
Clean record
My first choice on airframe would be the A10. Any insight from Guard, Reserve, or Active duty personnel would have would be great.
Thanks for the help.
As you can see, you will run into many [deleted] along the way. No one else ever had any questions when they were applying, the stars just aligned and they got their spot.
Stats look good...better than what I had. But it's all a wash, just figure out what units you want to apply to and fire out some packets. Also, enough can't be said about going and visiting the squadron. It gives them a chance to get to know you before they interview you. They are interviewing you to see if they could stand to be around you in squadron and bars for the next 20 years.
As far as the Active/Guard/Resreve question....I can't count how many times I had an active bro say I wish I would have known about the guard!
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This has nothing to do with computers, or using the internet for assistance. I would be a lot more receptive if he were to say "I read this or that and was wondering this..". I have no problem with geeks - and I doubt even Albie would have gone up to a bunch of officers at an AF base with his stats saying "what do you think my odds are?" That's what Zn is doing.
The answers he gets on this board are going to do him no more good than if he asked the same question to his neighbors. Will he not apply if we tell him they aren't good? Will he decide to apply only if we tell him they are good? What's the point? Do some research (as you say you have), put some real thought into the best way to accomplish your dream, and ask specific questions. Even "I've done this, this, and this - am I leaving anything else out?" is more specific than "what are my chances?"
New applicants have access to a wealth of information that we NEVER had, but they are squandering it with "what are my chances?", as if any answers to that question are even worth the time it takes to type them out.
If that's all he wants to know, let me end this thread - Your chances are outstanding, let us know how it works out.
P.S. - Now, do some leg work, talk to the DOs and members of the squadrons, talk to the recruiters, and come back and use the assets you have in the form of this board (assets that I never had) to its full advantage. Just like those people asking about "how to get waivers", etc are doing. You want to stand out from your competition? Show up prepared, knowledgeable, interested, etc - show that you are active rather than passive in this endeavor. FWIW: posts such as this are passive.
The answers he gets on this board are going to do him no more good than if he asked the same question to his neighbors. Will he not apply if we tell him they aren't good? Will he decide to apply only if we tell him they are good? What's the point? Do some research (as you say you have), put some real thought into the best way to accomplish your dream, and ask specific questions. Even "I've done this, this, and this - am I leaving anything else out?" is more specific than "what are my chances?"
New applicants have access to a wealth of information that we NEVER had, but they are squandering it with "what are my chances?", as if any answers to that question are even worth the time it takes to type them out.
If that's all he wants to know, let me end this thread - Your chances are outstanding, let us know how it works out.
P.S. - Now, do some leg work, talk to the DOs and members of the squadrons, talk to the recruiters, and come back and use the assets you have in the form of this board (assets that I never had) to its full advantage. Just like those people asking about "how to get waivers", etc are doing. You want to stand out from your competition? Show up prepared, knowledgeable, interested, etc - show that you are active rather than passive in this endeavor. FWIW: posts such as this are passive.
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