ZnCrO4

Before I begin I know there have been a ton of "what are my chances???" type post although none of them truly fit my profile.

I am 23, working at a pretty good job and have a dream to fly for the military. I have been researching ANG slots and here are my stats:

PCSM: 97
AFOQT pilot: 99 nav:92
TT: 2100
ATP
3 Type ratings
College GPA:3.9
Clean record

My first choice on airframe would be the A10. Any insight from Guard, Reserve, or Active duty personnel would have would be great.

Thanks for the help.

LivingInMEM

I remember the good old days when you actually pursued your "dream to fly for the military" with actual work and perseverance. Of course, it is much easier to post on these blogs and ask questions that mean absolutely nothing. Dude, you aren't a high school sophomore, you are 24!

How about this - I'll lead off by saying "slim to none." Then someone else will post that those numbers are pretty good (and could be made up for all we know) and they will say your chances are good. Then you will go interview and they will either have no slots available or will be turned off by your personality and will say no, or they will have slots available and will like your interview and say yes.

How about taking those numbers, trying to get a slot, then posting to the others how it worked out for you and what you did to improve or hurt your cause instead of asking questions that are nothing more than guesses and have no bearing on reality.

ryan1234

Good luck dude! Let us know how it works out!

Looks like you did worse on the TBAS than the AFOQT... I did the same thing... luckily the max hours helped out in the PCSM. Guess we're not cut out to operate UAVs.

Grumble

Agreed. I never spent my time on internet message boards looking for an ego boost or moral support. I got off my ass, jumped through the hoops, and applied. If I had posted my stats/GPA/etc I'm sure every expert on the internet would have told me not to waste my time. 1200 hours of fighter time later.....

rickair7777

If you have 1200 hours, odds are that the message boards barely existed when you applied. I certainly did not have the benefit of them in the 1980's...

But his stats look like a reasonable jumping-off point, like ya'all said he needs to go make it happen now but there's harm in asking a question...he even provided us with enough details to answer his question for chrisake!

LivingInMEM

What's the point? Is it just for an ego boost? Do you know guys that didn't get called or hired at your airline, but should have? How about guys that got called or hired, but shouldn't have? There is no way that you can take all of the variables such as medical, openings, need, profiles being looked for, number of in-house guys applying, quality of in-house guys applying, how much this guy whines when you meet him in-person, etc and flesh out a percentile of the chances of him getting a pilot slot.

It doesn't matter if we had internet forums or not, the question is a complete waste of time. If he can't figure that out at 24 years of age, I'd recommend against hiring him into a military unit.

I stand by my original post. Get off your butt, go try to get a slot, and report back with the results so those behind you can learn the do's and don'ts of trying to get a pilot slot. Quit trying to build your ego by posting some numbers, hoping that everyone will say "wow, you'll get hired for sure." In the end, the guy with the hottest sister (or the hottest sister, herself) will be the one to get hired anyway.

Disclaimer: since it's ANG, it will be the one with the most politically connected parent or sponsor. For a lesson on how the world works, go watch the Seinfeld episode where George is trying to compete in front of the board for the big apartment. Imagine that is you bragging about your scores and GPA and how these guys on this one website told you how good your chances were while the guy behind you slips them a $50 bill and gets the slot.

F16Driver

Just apply and see what happens. There usually aren't that many apps showing up for pilot slots at Guard and Reserve units as you might think. Not many people want to do the military thing nowadays, regardless of the airframe.

dbtownley

I think you are all are being a little critical here. Sure we have to have thick skin to be in the military, but shesh. We have an individual here that is willing and WANTING to join our military during a time of WAR. He isn't just doing it for a job, he already has one of those, and it isn’t some crappy airline one. I commend him on trying to join the force and protect America which he will have a part of if he is in the ANG. He is just looking for some advice and direction. I am a big believer in following your dreams and not getting "stuck" in a job that you don’t like, that is why I quit DAL after only 6 months.

navigatro

On paper, you are very competitive.

Guard units like to hire people they know (enlisted members of the unit) or have personal recommendations from other pilots in that unit.

Also, personality is VERY important. You are being hired to go to war. The question that will be asked: Is this a good dude to go TDY with? Or is he a tool?

Finally, the medical exam disqualifies a lot of people.

You can ask all you want, but it means nothing. You have to apply and find out for yourself.

FYI: I have served on several (Guard) pilot selection boards

rvrabel2002

I agree with most of the others, you need to just apply and see what happens. That being said, many Air Guard units hire based on their needs and if they have anyone in the unit applying. For recruiting purposes, its best that they hire someone from within the unit. It shows guys thinking about joining up with them "hey, maybe you too can fly this shiny jet one day..." without so many words.

I interviewed with two ANG units (one F-16 unit, one KC-135 unit) with some contacts and both slots were filled by, you guessed it, members of the unit. Getting a guard UPT slot is a dime a dozen, but don't let some of these other guys discourage you....

If we all had a crystal ball though, we probably wouldn't be flying...