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USMCFLYR 04-11-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 794195)
You could easily get a CRJ job, learn the part 121 business, and apply to an airline you'd like to work at. The guy one ahead of me in seniority at SkyWest was only there about six months, and got picked up by Delta. Navy S3 guy.

I'm not sure there is any EASY CRJ job out there :( The point of my story above was that I wasn't looking to move on - but then again this is before I understood much about the aviation industry. PM sent with more detail.

USMCFLYR

SaltyDog 04-12-2010 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 793971)
Not only that, but I don't know ANY Reserve or Guard guys, that fly for any regionals. If I made the move to the reserves, after making 100K a year, why in the HELL would I accept 20K a year to work my ass off like that?

Grumble,
You don't know enough people then <g>
I was a non pointy jet tailhooker, who then flew the bird in my avatar for several years. When left active duty, the legacies were furloughing or not hiring. LCC's weren't hiring, most regionals were not hiring. The cargo dogs were not.
Pointy or not, If you wanted to stay 'in the game' to show 'committment' to the future big iron airline industry HR types, some military would accept a junior starting position at a regional. I did for 3 years before getting hired up the chop chain (and stayed mil reserve flying). You are correct, but really, many could not handle the 'status demotion'. Many couched it as 'financially a no go". I saved like crazy and most of us called the financial card a cover story for ego, or just poor planners. Many of those guys are not flying airplanes for a living anymore. Myself and other mil aviators saw the regional as any other regional pilot. A place to build 121 time with a hope to get hired somewhere else in bigger prospects that suited individual desires (Legacy/LCC/Cargo, etc). The mil experience certainly made us competitive at the regional when it was very competitive. In my current job, during the interview, the committment was noted in my career progression. It helped get me a job. Not so much for the ones who took a few years away. To each his own, but I know pointy/non pointy that went regionals.
Our friend TM just wasn't experienced enough to realize he overextended the credibilty gap long ago and likely believes his own fabrications. To bad, as many posted, no one part of his story is unbelieveable. Just the whole story in toto.

ERJF15 04-12-2010 01:59 PM

My senority number just went down a number, so maybe he quit.

dogfeathers 04-13-2010 03:24 AM

....then in the good spirit of the Crew Scheduling mess in Dallas, they have left his trip assigned to him until they decide to reassign it minutes prior to the standard 2-hr callout......

...or they'll pull whoever is on Airport Ready when they realize their FO hasn't checked in for the trip....

Grumble 04-13-2010 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by SaltyDog (Post 794350)
Grumble,
You don't know enough people then <g>
.

Can't deny that!

EYBusdriver 04-13-2010 12:35 PM

Isn't it illegal to make false service claims.

Welcome To ReportStolenValor.org

USMCFLYR 04-13-2010 12:52 PM

That is a little confusing. I thought the Act was based on wearing the uniform of a service or wearing medals not awarded - like many of the recent cases (thinking of the high school reunion guy who claim to be a Marine LtCol) This passage from one of the articles though (if correct) includes VERBAL stories; it then goes on to mention imagine how many guys could be in trouble after using pickup lines.

From one of the articles posted in the link above:

Stolen valor is the fraudulent claim or inflated claim of military service either verbally or in writing and is against the law.

The Stolen Valor Act, signed in 2006, made the wearing of ribbons or medals not earned by military service punishable by a fine and up to one year in jail. Think about how many men could be prosecuted for the pickup lines they are using at local establishments.
USMCFLYR

Grumble 04-13-2010 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by EYBusdriver (Post 795240)
Isn't it illegal to make false service claims.

Welcome To ReportStolenValor.org

Actually yes it is. It also warrants a kick in the groin.

Nortonious 04-13-2010 01:54 PM

Open Letter to Tim Martins
 
Dude (Tim),

I think you must have finally gotten the drift of how seriously flawed your life of charades had become. It seems you have likely lost your job in aviation and your house of cards has come crumbling down. And maybe you're now in danger of prosecution for having committed a federal crime (ref: stolen valor above).

Crazy thing is I ain't mad at you, I just feel sorry for you (and yeah, I got plenty of real F-16 time). Why don't you do yourself a huge favor:

1) publicly apologize
2) seek help*
3) get off all the forums
4) pursue a career outside aviation
5) maybe after a few years of reflection you can get back into flying as a hobby


*I'd suggest faith-based counseling rooted in concept of redemption...

rickair7777 04-13-2010 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 795276)
Actually yes it is. It also warrants a kick in the groin.

I'm pretty sure you have to actually wear a uniform and/or decorations that you are not entitled to. Shooting off your mouth in a bar (or an alpa magazine) probably doesn't qualify for legal purposes.


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