Civilian Career Following Guard UPT
09-08-2006, 05:45 AM
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Civilian Career Following Guard UPT
Gentlemen,
I am recent selectee to become a guard baby for a cargo unit and I have an interview with fighter unit in the future. It is a dream come true, however, I need to put some thought into the future.
I have very low time currently and know that I won't receive a ton of time in UPT and both tracks. If I am in a fighter squadron, I should have 2-3 years of seasoning, but will I accumulate enough hours for a RJ/corporate gig?
In the cargo world, I shouldn't get many seasoning days, but I will get enough opprotunity to get trips and guard bum for hours?
In short, I am looking for some advice and some leasons learned from the large amount of ex-mil guys on the board.
Thanks in advance
I am recent selectee to become a guard baby for a cargo unit and I have an interview with fighter unit in the future. It is a dream come true, however, I need to put some thought into the future.
I have very low time currently and know that I won't receive a ton of time in UPT and both tracks. If I am in a fighter squadron, I should have 2-3 years of seasoning, but will I accumulate enough hours for a RJ/corporate gig?
In the cargo world, I shouldn't get many seasoning days, but I will get enough opprotunity to get trips and guard bum for hours?
In short, I am looking for some advice and some leasons learned from the large amount of ex-mil guys on the board.
Thanks in advance
09-08-2006, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dutch
Gentlemen,
I am recent selectee to become a guard baby for a cargo unit and I have an interview with fighter unit in the future. It is a dream come true, however, I need to put some thought into the future.
I have very low time currently and know that I won't receive a ton of time in UPT and both tracks. If I am in a fighter squadron, I should have 2-3 years of seasoning, but will I accumulate enough hours for a RJ/corporate gig?
In the cargo world, I shouldn't get many seasoning days, but I will get enough opprotunity to get trips and guard bum for hours?
In short, I am looking for some advice and some leasons learned from the large amount of ex-mil guys on the board.
Thanks in advance
I am recent selectee to become a guard baby for a cargo unit and I have an interview with fighter unit in the future. It is a dream come true, however, I need to put some thought into the future.
I have very low time currently and know that I won't receive a ton of time in UPT and both tracks. If I am in a fighter squadron, I should have 2-3 years of seasoning, but will I accumulate enough hours for a RJ/corporate gig?
In the cargo world, I shouldn't get many seasoning days, but I will get enough opprotunity to get trips and guard bum for hours?
In short, I am looking for some advice and some leasons learned from the large amount of ex-mil guys on the board.
Thanks in advance
In today's guard with the current state of affairs, you would probably accumulate hours four times faster in the cargo unit. The TDY rate is very high, and guys are tired of volunteering for long deployments. If you do not mind being gone for approx 200-275 days per year from home, you would probably qualify to upgrade to Acft Commander in two years, and have enough PIC time to qualify for the Majors in another two years. If you give four to five years of your life to guard bumming for all you are worth, you could begin applying at any major you choose. Contacts at these companies through your guard buds is the most important part to this puzzle. What cargo aircraft does your unit fly?
09-08-2006, 06:37 AM
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The Unit flies C-130s. I am currently in the guard, but in the ACC side of the house and am not completely familiar with how many opprotunites there are for bumming in C-130s. I also realize there are probably more opprotunites for days in Strat units doing channel missions.
I definitely don't mind going TDY. It is why I joined and currently I have no dependents.
I won't be operational until 2009/2010 so the world will change a lot and it is hard to predict the ops tempo and civilian hiring picture. I just don't want to be through w/ training and then be out on my ass with 500 hours and little Turbine PIC.
thanks
I definitely don't mind going TDY. It is why I joined and currently I have no dependents.
I won't be operational until 2009/2010 so the world will change a lot and it is hard to predict the ops tempo and civilian hiring picture. I just don't want to be through w/ training and then be out on my ass with 500 hours and little Turbine PIC.
thanks
09-08-2006, 07:52 AM
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Personally, I would stick with the C130. It is very rewarding to fly a fighter, but if your goal is to get to the big leagues in the quickest manner , then a fighter is a long road, not to mention if you supplemented with the regionals. The ops tempo will be strong for the rest of our lifetime, (unless the terrorists decide to give up, and the middle east disappears).
09-08-2006, 08:30 AM
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I guess I would have to agree with the ops tempo staying high. The Invasion of Iran will probably happen in the next 10 years.
My goal is to be a pilot in the guard, and I am almost there as long as I can stay out of the jailhouse and the hospital room. The airlines are not a goal anymore, but a way to HOPEFULLY enjoy a lifestyle that is comfortable and guard-friendly. Thus, I might take the fighter job if offered. I agree that the C-130 is more practical. I'll just let the big guy upstairs answer that for me.
Should I be renting now as I wait for dates to build up an extra 50-100 hours of SE VFR for TT?
thanks fedupbus
My goal is to be a pilot in the guard, and I am almost there as long as I can stay out of the jailhouse and the hospital room. The airlines are not a goal anymore, but a way to HOPEFULLY enjoy a lifestyle that is comfortable and guard-friendly. Thus, I might take the fighter job if offered. I agree that the C-130 is more practical. I'll just let the big guy upstairs answer that for me.
Should I be renting now as I wait for dates to build up an extra 50-100 hours of SE VFR for TT?
thanks fedupbus
09-08-2006, 10:30 AM
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Something to consider: you have the rest of your life to ride around in a large crew aircraft. I'd fly the fighter just to do something different for awhile. Later you can switch to a heavy guard unit if need be. Going with the fighter now at least leaves your options open later.
09-08-2006, 10:42 AM
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I'd go for a fighter while you still can.
All time in a fighter is PIC. Most airlines realize that you get more hours in a heavy vs a fighter but that doesn't necessarily make it "better" time, and they make allowances for the difference.
All time in a fighter is PIC. Most airlines realize that you get more hours in a heavy vs a fighter but that doesn't necessarily make it "better" time, and they make allowances for the difference.
09-08-2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dutch
I guess I would have to agree with the ops tempo staying high. The Invasion of Iran will probably happen in the next 10 years.
My goal is to be a pilot in the guard, and I am almost there as long as I can stay out of the jailhouse and the hospital room. The airlines are not a goal anymore, but a way to HOPEFULLY enjoy a lifestyle that is comfortable and guard-friendly. Thus, I might take the fighter job if offered. I agree that the C-130 is more practical. I'll just let the big guy upstairs answer that for me.
Should I be renting now as I wait for dates to build up an extra 50-100 hours of SE VFR for TT?
thanks fedupbus
My goal is to be a pilot in the guard, and I am almost there as long as I can stay out of the jailhouse and the hospital room. The airlines are not a goal anymore, but a way to HOPEFULLY enjoy a lifestyle that is comfortable and guard-friendly. Thus, I might take the fighter job if offered. I agree that the C-130 is more practical. I'll just let the big guy upstairs answer that for me.
Should I be renting now as I wait for dates to build up an extra 50-100 hours of SE VFR for TT?
thanks fedupbus
09-08-2006, 02:01 PM
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If all of you Bigwatches are through ****ing on each others leg, I'll just add that if your goal is to just be a guard pilot, then a fighter is the way to go. But, the heavy will get you the required hours for a major quicker.
Now you guys can go back to playing Crud.
Now you guys can go back to playing Crud.
09-08-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
If all of you Bigwatches are through ****ing on each others leg, I'll just add that if your goal is to just be a guard pilot, then a fighter is the way to go. But, the heavy will get you the required hours for a major quicker.
Now you guys can go back to playing Crud.
Now you guys can go back to playing Crud.
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