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Old 11-07-2011, 07:07 PM
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Ever heard of a waiver granted so a pilot can palace chase if he's once passed over with a QFI? I'm thinking "not" for pilots, but thought I'd poll the crowd to see if it's ever been done before.

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Old 11-08-2011, 03:14 AM
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With a QFI, Big Blue more than likely will not approve someone for Palace Chase. However, I have heard of guys conducting a "Palace Front", i.e. go guard/reserve upon ETS. Here's a link to the AFI regarding Palace Chase/Front: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-3205.pdf
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What's a QFI?
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What's a QFI?
Quality Force Indicator, something which could be any multitude of reasons good, bad or indifferent, in which "Big Blue" will try to RIF someone.
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If anyone was following this, here's the answer...straight from the Palace Chase shop at AFPC. Pilots are not permitted by the AFI to Palace Chase. However, with the AF continuing to get smaller, AFPC has authorization to Palace Chase pilots this fiscal year. If a reserve/guard unit CC and current Sq/CC makes the case for why this is the right thing for the total force, it's possible.

In fact, AFPC just approved a pilot for a 2.5 year early release from AD service commitment. They are not likely to approve, however, unless the pilot is in danger of a RIF or 2nd pass over & non-continuation. Therefore this practically only applies to late rated guys or those who picked up a late or long additional ADSC for some reason.

Great news for one of my guys....
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If anyone was following this, here's the answer...straight from the Palace Chase shop at AFPC. Pilots are not permitted by the AFI to Palace Chase. However, with the AF continuing to get smaller, AFPC has authorization to Palace Chase pilots this fiscal year. If a reserve/guard unit CC and current Sq/CC makes the case for why this is the right thing for the total force, it's possible.

In fact, AFPC just approved a pilot for a 2.5 year early release from AD service commitment. They are not likely to approve, however, unless the pilot is in danger of a RIF or 2nd pass over & non-continuation. Therefore this practically only applies to late rated guys or those who picked up a late or long additional ADSC for some reason.

Great news for one of my guys....
A guy I know, pilot O-4 type, just got rif'd after the AF tried to non-vol him to go teach Afghani's for a year. But, he's now got a full time ART position down in Florida. Hope it all works out for your guy.
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Anyone seen the latest FY12 PSDM regarding Force Shaping? Very similar language restricting 11X's from the Palace Chase program. Indy or anyone else in the know: Does the unwritten case-by-case still apply? I'll be putting my paperwork in shortly requesting PC at the end of my UPT ADSC but with about 6 months of my PCS ADSC remaining. Justification being that it's more convenient for the unit that hired me and myself to arrive sooner rather than later. Any insights into chances for approval?
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Anyone seen the latest FY12 PSDM regarding Force Shaping? Very similar language restricting 11X's from the Palace Chase program. Indy or anyone else in the know: Does the unwritten case-by-case still apply? I'll be putting my paperwork in shortly requesting PC at the end of my UPT ADSC but with about 6 months of my PCS ADSC remaining. Justification being that it's more convenient for the unit that hired me and myself to arrive sooner rather than later. Any insights into chances for approval?
I saw that memo also and called the number that was in it. Got a hold of MSgt in the PC office at AFPC who was very nice and helpful, but he also just got the memo and said he was going to spend the weekend learning it. Told me to call back Monday because that's when they are releasing official info regarding FY 12 force shaping.

PM if you need the number. I've got it on my computer at the squadron and can send it to you on Monday. Good luck! I've got 7 years left on my ADSC and looking for any chance I can find to PC!
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Good luck! I've got 7 years left on my ADSC and looking for any chance I can find to PC!
I hope the Air Force is paying attention. Guys three years in ready to bail?
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I've got 7 years left on my ADSC and looking for any chance I can find to PC!
Why did you sign up for 10? How could you not know what you were in for when you voluntarily signed on the line for UPT four years ago?

Pi$$ poor showing.
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